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Posted by: Okiewan

For all around use (not dual sport)... ?
Tight, open, sand, climbs, technical, fast.... you know, the bike that would handle everything?

Not talking about bike brands, rather what goes on the bike, your list of must-have's, wish-you-could-haves... the whole deal. Let's see your parts list, by mfg, as much detail as you can provide. 2-stroke required.

What part
Why that part / benefit
Who makes the best of said part?

Here's your chance to build your dream bike, no budget. Let's hear it! Please educate this track queen

(to be clear, no Okie is not turning into a woods rider, although I had a freaking BLAST at DW, even with the stump induced broken toe and NO I don't have an unlimited budget LOL!

BUT... gathering this info is VERY important and your input is VERY much appreciated).

Posted by: BadgerMan

If your are riding an MX bike, revalve at least the fork, Jeremy @ MXtech

If you are riding sand, Michelin S-12’s FR and RR. Dunlop 773’s are also good.

O-ring chain, RK, DID, EK, they are all decent. No need to spend too much money. Be sure to allow for more clearance within your chain guide.

Enduro Engineering hand guards are my personal favorite

Add flywheel weight depending on the bike and riding conditions. Stealhy?

Softer (and taller if needed) seat by SDG or EE for a KTM. More sitting when woods riding and for longer periods. Taller seat makes transition easier on the knees.

Scotts steering damper, if needed based on bike and conditions. I never needed one for my YZF. The new KTM may require one though. The jury is still out.

Spark arrestor, for most new four strokes the PMB end cap and quiet insert is a great option. For a 2-stroke, FMF. For a KTM, EE.

Do you need to title the bike for connecting up trail systems? That presents a whole new challenge and related parts list.

Posted by: Okiewan

Thanks for the input!
Keep it coming!

Posted by: katoom125

Two must haves:
1. less weight (under 210 pounds)
2. Better suspension (highly personal)

Motor can be whatever you prefer - again motor preferences - both type and size are highly personal.

Posted by: XRpredator

If Service Honda made an off road version of their 500AF, with electric start and lights, that would be cool. Then you could add on whatever armor you felt you needed (handguards, skidplates, etc). I would probably stick to DRN sponsors as much as I could for the parts I'd want.

Heck, I'd even want a set of supermoto wheels. In Idaho, I could probably get away with a license plate on the sucker

Posted by: junkjeeps

I don't know about having a 2 stroke, but I think the following could apply to both:

Suspension - MxTech, I have it and it was the best money spent yet

Ascerbis Rally Pro Handguards - Need good hand protection for the trees.

ProTaper fat bars - Cut down to under 31"

Scotts Steering Stabilizer - Don't have one yet, but I'm saving.

Michelin S-12 front tire - cornering traction essential. If you can't trust your front tire, who can you trust?

IMS wide pegs - for when you have to actually stand up.

IMS folding shifter - for those of us who occasionally take a spill.

IMS oversized tank - no need for gas stops

White Bros e-series tunable exhaust. This may be 4 stroke branding here.

Recluse auto clutch - I don't have one, but the people I talk to who do really like them.

K & N air filter - Easy to clean and reusable.

If I think of anymore, I'll add later.

Mark

Good O-ring chain and steel sprockets

E-start would be nice to - once again a 4 stroke thing.

Posted by: kelseybrent

Are you looking for this?
http://www.servicehonda.com/06_500AFX.html

Posted by: KTM Mike

Ditto on all said before - though I would trust Napper at EE with the supension work. Most of the goodies that come to my mind are EE items. Partly 'cause my 2nd KTM happened to come with all of them, i liked them and followed suit with my new bike.

Clutch Slave Guard (way cheaper than a new case) EE
Rear Brake fin EE
Bars at 29" for me (maybe 29 1/2) - my own pipe cutter does that trick
High Out put lighting coil for some night time play time (? dunno who to do that)
Easy pull clutch lever EE - lazy left hand likes this big time...even on a KTM hydro unit
CF Pipe Guard Eline - some bling, and they work well!
I would street legalize it as well - brake light switch, headlight switch etc.
Wider tougher chain guide (my EE one has held up well)
Hardened wheel spacers
Barkbusters of course
I like the looks of those fastway mounts for the Bark busters
Some taller bars, or the KTM Hardparts bar risers would be nice
G2 Ergo Throttle cam would be cool to...
Ditto on the S-12s, tall soft seat, FWW maybe (cant say i would put one on my 250, though i did have one on my 300).

Posted by: SpeedyManiac

Must haves:
Barkbusters. Fastway makes a sweet setup the leaves handlebar space for other stuff. Bark busters are mandatory for woods battle.
Skid plate. Something aluminum as it is more durable than CF.
Pipe guard. Eline Carbon fibre. Carbon fibre has give that aluminum doesn't, so big hits will not deform the exhaust spigot, pipe mounts or cylinder.
Radiator guards. Make sure they have braces AND puncture protection!
Oversize Handlebars. Pro-taper Taperwall Mini-High bend. They're 30.50 inches wide so no need for cutting.
Full-waffle grips in soft compound with grip donuts. Yeah comfort and grip.
Suspension revalve. Pick your favorite company and go for it. I use Pro Works Racing.
Kenda Milville rear tire. Not sure what on the front, haven't found any that are exceptionally better than others yet.

Other sweet goodies:
Scotts Steering Damper. Need I say more?
Hydraulic clutch. KTM and GasGas are on to something.
Slave-cylinder for said clutch. Must have for GasGas and KTM bikes.
TM Designworks Chain guide or LTR Chain guide for Gassers.
LTR Powervalve Cover for GasGas bikes.
Scotts Sharkfin.
Excel Pro Wheel Sets. Damn they're cool.
BRP Triple clamps. Again, they are cool and can move the bar position if needed.
Brake and Shifter snake for bikes that have the shifter and or brake pedal sticking out a lot. My bike doesn't need them, but a lot of others need them.
ARC or ASV Levers. Not necessary with bark busters but if you can afford them, why not?

Posted by: SGJ_Johansen

Hmmm, start with a KTM 200 and just add a few goodies and your set.

Posted by: Okiewan

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGJ_Johansen

Hmmm, start with a KTM 200 and just add a few goodies and your set.

Quote:

Not talking about bike brands, rather what goes on the bike, your list of must-have's, wish-you-could-haves... the whole deal.

Posted by: Reesknight

Hey Okie, this is the second thread I've seen where your asking about 2 stroke mods. What up wid dat?

Posted by: Okiewan

shhhh....
(I was hoping the fact that I'm really a hard-core 2-stroker wouldn't show)

Posted by: Tony Eeds

Okie:

I knew it ... you're a closet woodie!!!

In no particular order except the first three.

Revalved suspension - Jer did mine and I now swear by it
Rekluse - dang I wish could justify one.
Pipe guard - I have already replaced my pipe once on my 200

Bark Busters - I have EE and MSR ... same stuff different branding
Chain guard - as someone else said, much cheaper than a case
Skid Plate
M12 front and rear is what I have on all my big bikes except my 650R
Good lighting - thinking DS here
Plated for street use - again DS
Narrow bars

ditto all the little stuff others have mentioned

Posted by: Skuta

My dream bike would be as follows.

My dream bike is cr500 a/f so thats what I start with.

Than I would have pro curcuit pipes all the way around - For looks and sound and of course performance.

Tag triple clamps - for pro tapers
Pro tapers - they are awesome and fit me well
port the motor - gotta have more power
20" tire in front and 18" in the back - for handling and they are tougher
the one industries david baiylee 86 500 replica plastics. - man I love the way they look, real nostalgic.
did gold o-ring chain - looks and strength
renthal sprockets - change gearing and they look good.
the enzo subtank suspension in front - better handling and bottom resistance.
Have race tech do suspension to my specs. - gives better feel and handling, I like a stiffer setup.
the power now things - better throttle response
baja design light kit - to ride at night
ims desert tank - that big 500 needs lots of fuel
excel rims - looks
talon hubs - lighter and stronger
big boy spokes - tougher
k&n filter - performance
flywheel weight -

This is my ultimate dream machine and I will have it one day. And when I do aint nothin gonna stop me.

Posted by: Reesknight

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiewan

shhhh....
(I was hoping the fact that I'm really a hard-core 2-stroker wouldn't show)

Closet 2 stroker

Posted by: Okiewan

Quote:

Good lighting - thinking DS here

Or of course the DirtWeek Night-time Poker run... I know FOR SURE a couple years ago, EVERYONE wanted better lights

Posted by: ellandoh

something is giving me the willies, be very very afraid, first Pred defends RC and now i see Okie on to a 2 stroke thing???????

edit:to keep on topic sorta , i was thinking of getting an extra seat with KDX foam for my bike when im in the woods alot. a long weekend of woods riding makes for 10 days of monkeybutt on a stock mx seat

Posted by: Jamir

and I am talking street bikes.

The world is coming to an end.

Posted by: BenjaminPQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiewan

For all around use (not dual sport)... ?
Tight, open, sand, climbs, technical, fast.... you know, the bike that would handle everything?

Not talking about bike brands, rather what goes on the bike, your list of must-have's, wish-you-could-haves... the whole deal. Let's see your parts list, by mfg, as much detail as you can provide. 2-stroke required.

What part
Why that part / benefit
Who makes the best of said part?

Here's your chance to build your dream bike, no budget. Let's hear it! Please educate this track queen

There is one thing that I can say for certain. No manufacture has come even close to, what I consider to be, the ultimate woods weapon. However, let me help them out a bit:

-Light weight (200lbs. would be real nice)
-Turning friendly rake and wheel base
-With shorter wheel base comes the need for a steering stabilizer
-A motor with power delivery like an XR, maybe not 650 power but around 40 would be great for woods (you don't need much when it all gets to the ground).
-Personalized suspension with purchase

-Double high bend bars, hand guards, oversized pegs
-Enduro computer with GPS
-Custom seat molded for my azz and my azz only

-Studded tires with Moose foam tubes (just use them year round)

That sounds about right

Posted by: fatherandson

Start with 'suspension and ergos...seat, bars...it is a long day

Hydraulic clutch is a must....auto clutch will help in the very technical stuff

Grab an EE catalog and max out the credit card!

Posted by: trakkerman

Sounds like a bike build-off and shootout is required.

I'm just curious, why the interest in off-road and two-strokes lately?

Posted by: Patman

While I still really dig my KXR284 (I better since I built it for me!) I think given the parameters of ultimate and do it all plus money doesn't seem to be an object in this little exercise there is one really good starting point. The Service Honda CR500AFX. It's reasonably light since it is a 2 stroke 500 in a CRF250X chassis which also makes it a pretty darn nimble mount as well and I just don't think power is an issue. Until you have ridden an open class 2 stroke that is well setup don't think they are all 600 pound gorilla's with a tooth ache. There's great low end for those tight trails and PLENTY of power for climbing crazy hills or blasting in the sand or impressing the heck out of Tim Allen Arr, Arr, Arr, ARRR!

Then of course you have the mega cool factor of having a hand built Honda that can be delivered to you with a vast assortment of modifications.

What else would make the AFX the ultimate bike or at lease the ultimate starting point? I don't know that it get's much more low maintenance that a CR500 engine. No frame "paint" to worry about (unless you want SH to powder coat it for ya').. Many stock pieces from various Honda models fit up so you shouldn't be hanging out in the cold if you bust a radiator or something similar. A monster lighting coil and the juice to power it plus pretty much whatever else you stick on it "stock".

Give me a little while and I'll come up with some ideas to make the ultimate bike even mo' betta'!

Posted by: 70 marlin

Acerbis bark buster (the one with metal) I really like my son new pair, there slimmer and mount very cleanly. I've heard advance riders saying they've dragged EE's or Fredette's style bark busters on the ground. Some thing that I’ll never could do. I have EE's on my Berg they work just fine. Taller, narrower bars would be nice. "Hydraulic clutch is a must" I couldn't consider going back to a cable? Soft seat? Just stand up! I like my ICO dual sport odometer. If you’re going to race enduro's you might one that has more functions, GPS yes I'd like one. A good tool kit and survival kit. A large hydration system like the camel back hog. It has lots of room to for goodies.

Posted by: Fred T

The stuff:
18 inch rear wheel
Solid rear rotor -Braking
Semi Metallic Brakes shoes rear
EE Shark fin
If the bike is orange then EE suspension sprung to your weight
Skid plate
I like Michelin tires
I like EE hand guards
O ring chain EK
You will need a pipe but it depends on what bike
Pro Taper handlebars, there is no other choice, Mini high bend works good for woods
I have a rekluse auto clutch, it's nice -pro's don't like them.
Hydro clutch even with an auto clutch
Aircells on your forks for bling bling factor http://store.aircellracing.com/
Watchdog 2000 off road computer with Scotts holder
Braking wave front rotor
Bullit Proof designs rad guards
V force III reed valve
EE chain guard
THE BIKE:
The motor needs to be smooth, so if porting, head work, reeds, flywheels AND EXHAUST need to be done the key is to have good strong but smooth power with good low end for off road.

Posted by: Reesknight

Another thing to consider would be if your riding in tight, technical single track woods where 5 mph is haulin a$$, a wide ratio gear box would be preferable. MX bikes can be a real handful in these situations.

Posted by: Patman

I'm looking at this "ultimate" thing as what bike/modifications/parts would handle most every type of riding the best. There are a zillion variables out there hence the reason we all have different bikes and setups. I think if any of us could only pick one bike to ride anywhere and everywhere under all the different conditions that are available across the U.S. (let along the world) our specific picks might very well end up different from what we have in the back ouf our trucks. I know my selection of starting point would be worlds different than my current bike and some of the add-ons / modifications I had over the years and different bikes would apply and others I wouldn't do.

Then again my "ultimate" street bike would be something like a BMW R1200GS Adventure because it's got plenty of power for blastin the highways, lots of torque for putting around and can even get a little bit dirty since not all roads are paved.

Posted by: placelast

Assumption: asian MX foundation (non-Gas Gas, KTM, nor Husky platform)

MX Tech suspension
Forward Motion porting & head work
Answer ProTaper CR-Hi or mini-high bend
FMF black Ergo grips
EE grip warmers
Fredette chain guide, hand savers & protectors
WER skid plate (glide plate w/two tube hoops, one on each side)
E-Line Accessories lighting coil
Tecnosel tall seat foam & cover, graphics, backgrounds; N-Style: #2
Devol rear disc guard
Regina O-ring chain
Renthal front sprocket for mud riding, Talon all others
Unabiker radiator guards (side protection, not front)
RTT steering damper/clamps
OEM wide-ratio trans (DRZ => RM250; WR426 => YZ250; CRF450X => CR250)
Steahly FWW
Rekluse or Revloc auto clutch (brand dependent) for woods
, Wiesco clutch basket for all else
18" rear wheel
Dunlop 773 for mud & sand, 952s elsewhere
MSR extra HD inner tubes
MT V-Force reed cage
No Toil fiter
IMS folding shift lever
ProCircuit Platinum II pipe, S/A
E-Line Accessories pipe guard
Pivot Pegz
Works Connection oil filler plug
Hebo hydo clutch
Braking oversize wave rotor
Cycra oversize disc guard
UFO 55w headlight, Acerbis enduro taillight/fender extension
Baja Designs side panel fuel tank (custom, one-off)

Posted by: KTM Mike

Okie - fess up...this is for the Dirtrider Mag "forum shoot out" isnt it?

Posted by: D Lafleur

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiewan

Or of course the DirtWeek Night-time Poker run... I know FOR SURE a couple years ago, EVERYONE wanted better lights

I didnt. I was too busy drinking daddy pops.

Posted by: John Harris

Protect it from the elements hard & wet, from below, above and sides (in case you should fall): handle well in slow and fast, set up for your personal comfort and ease of precise control; and power to the ground in all conditions. (It is not necessary or even preferable to spin the rear wheel everywhere.) Easy to start and restart hot or cold and after falling. My preference is not to have giant travel like most MX bikes, but to have softer shorter suspension and a low center of gravity on the motorcycle, but they are not usually made like that anymore. Cheers John

Posted by: D Lafleur

Flywheel weight on a 250 cc mx bike. (this can be changed for the conditions, lightweight or non for the sand, heavier for the rocky riding areas. Rear sprockets can tune the bike for the terrain/average speed)

Suspension, (Find your personal guru, dont lie to him about how you ride or what you way, and trust him.) EE, MxTech, Race Tech, etc. all have good folks, but it is more important to have someone that understands what you are needing, not what you are asking. )

Hand guards ( I use EE, I want to be like Mike.

)

S12s unless you live in the rocks.

Fuel Tank (Stock mx bikes will do ~ 30 miles on a stock tank. I ran 3.1 on my zuke and the jury is still out on if that helped. I didnt have to stop for gas, but the extra weight at the start of the race is noticable.)

Scotts Steering Stabilizer (Set loose on low speed, just to catch the bars when you hit the hidden stuff.)

Oring chains, spark arrestor silencer, heavy duty tubes, and case protection are givens. Solid rear rotors if you are playing in the mud.

Posted by: jsned

Barkbusters, and excersize your butt off.

I ride in dist 17 Hs and Enduros so I get to watch Fredette smoke alot of fast guys on a antique bike with a few mods, which would still not make it as good as what is sitting on the dealer floors in todays modern bikes. This has led me to feel stupid spending money on things that are not in need of replacing due to wear, which is about all I can afford.

I think the ultimite offroad weapon is a bike that fits your riding style, in excellent mechanical condition come day of the race, because riding in the woods takes a toll on little things that could end your day early.

Posted by: BadgerMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTM Mike

Okie - fess up...this is for the Dirtrider Mag "forum shoot out" isnt it?

Could this be the motivation:

http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=153806

I guess we can rule out the Austrian bike idear, eh?

YZ250......?

Posted by: KTM Mike

yep Tim, I am sure that is it. I had seen it "over there" and figured Okie was testing us to see if we were true blue (orange?) DRN'ers or not!

Actually, doing a pumpkin may be better yet - think of if DRN could out do KTM Talk in prepping a KTM?

Posted by: Okiewan

Yeah... it's out there now for all subscribers and STM's to read and contribute... see the new forum at the top of the forum home page.

As many members are readers of all the forums, I SUPPOSE this could be an issue for some. Just keep in mind, speaking in detail with Jimmy, they don't intend this to be a "Forum Competition", but you've got to know, many will take it that way. We aren't playing that game. You need to determine what "team" you want to play on and go with it... No hard feelings either way... it's all in good fun, I just hope the members of all boards remember that.

That being said, we are entering a bike. While we wanted to open the idea to all brands, given the short lead time (which frankly, borders on insanity), we had to limit the selection to a) what we believe in and b) what is do-able. DirtRider.Com has since limited the bikes to what they have "in stock" as test bikes, so we are confident our decision is okay as well. Please see the new forum on DRN and get involved. We need your expertise and opinons! We know what we can get as far as brand goes and we know it's WAY more than a CRF or YZF with a PU catalog thrown at it. Check the Build-Off forum.

As far as KTM? I think we are all DB'ers, regardless of the name of our site or if we are owned by a KTM dealer... but... I understand fully that there are boards that are better at their specific target, ie; KTMTalk surely has a lot more KTM guys than DRN. It's in their best interest to have a KTM get the best review... where DRN isn't brand specific... or "stroke specific" for that matter.

DRN is more generalized than the other boards... and many will say more "technical"... whatever? We are just going to put togehter the best bike we can and let the cards fall where they may. Like Isaid, it's all in good fun.

Please.. if you have something to add, contribute to that Build-Off forum... we are relying on you all to put this thing together. None of this costs the members anything... just a few minutes to get together and come-up with a dream bike. DRN will secure the bike, the parts.. all of it, just as I assume the other boards will. We really need your thoughts.

Posted by: BadgerMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiewan

You need to determine what "team" you want to play on and go with it...

Even though I might lurk around KTMtalk for some jetting specs or suspension settings, DRN is home.

I am still a Yamaha fan through and through and I would love to see a tricked out YZ250 with Forward Motion, MXtech, and DRN graphics in the subject issue of Dirt Rider. Even though I now own an Austrian bike (again), I have a special place in my heart for a converted Jap MXer.

Posted by: tx246

this year i rode desert(new mexico), mx(local and away), woods(muenster/500 ect), rocks(moab/kiamichi) and if it snows, ill ride that too. all of this was on a cr.

handguards by moose
flywheel weight by msr
oring chain ek
clarke 3.0 tank for 65mile range
trailtech enduro computer so you know how much gas you have left. would upgrade to a highend unit if i had the money
devol radiator braces
pro circuit spark arrestor/pro circuit pipe
michelins wear well
suspension work of your choice.........mine was done by me with the help of some people who know what they are talking about in our very own suspension forum.
garmin 76 gps unit.
skid plate
pro tapers are bombproof

best mod on my bike was fixing the high speed compression valving on the front fork. it will fly over rock and roots no problem yet it still handles high speed desert.

iwish my bike had the following
title
lighting coil and baja light kit
wide ratio transmission .........mx gear boxes are all pretty tight.
i always wanted black anodised rims (excell w/stainless spokes from buchanon)
shark fin on rear brake
oversized front brake with wave rotor
ims footpegs

Posted by: mylesc

OK, Here's my list:

- Scott's Steering damper
- BRP Rubber mounted Triple clamps with Sub Mount for Scott's Damper
- Pro Taper Bars
- Pro Moto Billet Kickstand
- E-Line Carbon Fiber Pipe Guard
- Cycra Pro Bend Handguards with triple clamp mounts
- Magura Jack Hydraulic Clutch
- Steahly Flywheel Weight
- MX-Tech Revalved suspension or Ohlins fork & shock
- Excel Wheel set (Black rims, silver or gold hubs, 18" rear rim)
- Service Honda Ultimate Speedometer
- Braking oversized wave front rotor
- Michelin S12 Tires
- Utah Sportscycle skid plate
- Works connection Frame Guards
- Devol Radiator Guards

Posted by: truespode

I like the Rekluse instead of the hydro clutch.

I vote against S12's simply because they are going to test in CA and the terrain will vary. I think the Michelin StarCross MS or MH would be a better setup. They hold up well on East Coast hard pack as well as perform well in the mud.

Ivan

Posted by: dirt bike dave

The Michelin S-12 and Dunlop 756 are popular all-around offroad tires here in California, even though they are rated a 'soft terrain'. Very versatile. If the riding will include forest they are among the best.

I happen to ride a bike that is tricker than most magazine 'project bikes'. It is a converted Japanese MXer and it is a dream to ride offroad. Many of the items have already been mentioned, but here you go:

Suspension - Factory Connection does a great job for off-road, but others may as well. Perfecting the suspension is a huge factor. For offroad a bike must be plush in the rocks and roots, but able to handle big hits and moderte jumps without losing its composure.

Steering Damper - an absolute must. Adjsut on the fly is nice. Go with Scotts.

Lighting - An ultimate bike must have an e-line system to power hot grips and lights. The additional HUGE benefit of the e-line is it really helps smooth power delivery. Better than a flywheel weight.

Armor - A must offroad. E-line has gobs of carbon fiber stuff.

Rear wheel - 18" and strong. Don't care about colors or brand names.

Big tank - go with Clarke.

Tubes - must be heavy duty. I prefer thick, natrual rubber, but for a project bike you could try the Summers ball system.

Silencer - FMF

Pipe - if the stock pipe makes the smoothest power, keep it on.

Hand guards - Cycra Pro-bend

Exotic stuff - Titanimum pegs. Replace the triple clamps. Might as well if it is for a magazine.

Weight - A realistic wet/no fuel weight for a fully enduro equipped 250 two stroke MX conversion is about 225 pounds. If low weight is the highest priority, you would have to leave off the 18" wheel conversion, the guards, the lights, heavy duty tubes, the steering damper, etc... Not worth it.

Posted by: truespode

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirt bike dave

The Michelin S-12 and Dunlop 756 are popular all-around offroad tires here in California, even though they are rated a 'soft terrain'. Very versatile. If the riding will include forest they are among the best.

I stand corrected on the tires then.

Ivan

Posted by: woodsracer369

If I had the $ to do it:
2006 YZ250-Yellow would be cool
Baja designs HID headlight
Acerbis tailight / breaklight (something low profile and unobtrusive)
rewound stator (Baja Designs)
stealthy fkywheel weight
Fastway footpegs (set to low boy position)
EE handgaurds
Renthal CR bend oversize bars
Renthal medium half waffle grips
Scotts steering damper
PC platnum pipe and USFS spark arrestor
Baja designs tall firm seat
X-ring chain
Black excell rims
CF (e-line)pipe gaurd
CF (e-line) glide plate
Apprpriate springs front and rear (210# in street clothes)
Revalve front and rear for Michigan woods
ICO checkmate
Roll chart holder
Co Dan large bag for rear fender
Michigan street title
Bridgestone M25/M26 tires
Heavy duty tubes (Bridgestone or MSR)
Zip ty oversize tank
Zip ty quick change axle blocks (black)
Zip ty quick change axles

You can PM me for my shipping address when you have the bike done!!! I will gladly accept the bike free of charge as payment for my input!

Posted by: SFO

The fastway handgaurd mount is the best engineered set up I have seen.
For the cr500af it will be a bonus as it will isolate the vibes and allow the bars to flex as designed, not buzz.
I would suggest tuning the whole handlebar assembly with a bar snake or bar end weights to further reduce the vibration factor.
Is there plans for the end result?
Will it be auctioned for charity?

Posted by: Patman

I plan to sneak in to Service Honda under the cover of darkness and make off with it. Look for my picture in a post office near you shortly afterward.

Posted by: AJ Waggoner

Quote:

Is there plans for the end result?

The AFX bike, and shipping costs, are donated for the DRN / forum bike test,
test only,
not given to Okie to keep forever.

(I'm sure $ 9K would be a nice gift, i would think he would owe me a kiss at least ? LOL)

So the bike itself would remain Service Honda's at the end of the day.
Makes sense right?
unless the forums involved can buy bikes to enter into this test.
*shrugs*

A raffle of some kind could be a possibilty,
details would have to be worked out.
I nany case what we do with the bike after the test,
is something we have plenty of time to work out afterwards?

One big concern is that any on line raffle , even for charity,
is against the laws of many states..ther legal depth of that would need to be really looked into by everyone involved.

what the forum wants done to the bike, the variuos things and mods, all need to be decided ASAP to meet the deadline.

all of the companies chosen, and donating thier time and products,
will be under a lot to make this deadline.
So we need to get exactly who we need to contact for product or services/modification lined
out very quickly.

Posted by: SFO

fastco bars with their handguard mount system, maybe cut and inch off of each side?

Posted by: Jon K.

If you can put Stephane Peterhansel on it, it'll go very fast.

No other modifications needed.

Posted by: Patman

I'd wait on cutting the bars until we know what all it being hung on them. If we end up with one of those on the fly adjustable stabilizrs or additional switches etc... we may need the room especially on thos bars as they are a little limited on space IMO.

Posted by: truespode

True. I read in a magazine (I believe it was my SETRA magazine) that Mike Lafferty likes to ride with full length bars so cutting them down is not necessarily a "must do," especially for West Coast riding.

Ivan

Posted by: BSWIFT

Cutting bars down is for an individual rider to decide. What works for one is not necessarily the right thing for others. Standard width is something everyone encounters, stay with the standard and let the eventual owner decide to cut the bars.

Posted by: GETMETOCA

When I think about the "ultimate offroad" bike, ergonomics and protection are key, and let's be real, having a nice looking bike with functional goodies puts a woods rider in the right frame of mind.

Scotts Steering Stabilizer
GUTZ gripper seat
Ascerbis Hand Guards
Some advanced light system - above and beyond stock
Oversized tank - Clarke
E-start
Wide footpegs - Fastway
Grip Warmers
O-Ring Chain
Trail Tech Enduro Computer
Renthal Fat Bars
Rad braces
Skid plate

Posted by: GETMETOCA

And a GPS!!!!!

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