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Posted by: Patman

Keep in mind that DirtWeek is already a massive undertaking and that the people that make it happen put more effort in to it than many will ever know. I'm sure there is always room to improve or even make things simpler and I can't guarentee any of the suggestions will be implemented but let's see what everyone has to say.



Posted by: Patman

-If you race you flag at least one of the other classes, period. If you don't want to help you don't get to play.

-All generators off by 10pm.



Posted by: Jamir

-No beer for Jamir



Posted by: motometal

Good stuff:

1. Name tags-mud-proof and didn't fall off

2. The free numbers for the races-sure beats black tape!

3. Porta krapper service was good for the most part

4. MX track layout (both tracks): very safe!  I actually expected more changes since last year, but that's ok.  The double double section was very cool.

5. Hare scrambles course: wow...very cool!  We don't have anything like that here.  Great job laying out the course, making the bridges, etc.!!!

6. Trials class and slow race: Huge thanks to Offroadwarrior, Patman, Lori, Randy, and Mike Snook for making this one of the highlights of the week!  The handout materials are a great tool even though I don't have a trials bike.

7. Jack and Diannes-awesome food and thanks for brining ice! 

8. The folks in the yellow trailers definitely saved the day for many.  I needed an odd ball sprocket and they had not one but two on hand!  These guys bring all the right stuff to an event/race.  Anyone hear how many tires they changed/sold? 

9. Nightly campfire: :flame: The perfect way to wind down each day of riding, with Saturday night being the absolute best!  Times like these define "dirtweek" to me, possibly even more so than any of the events.  It's the people!

10. Chili cookoff: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! :flame:

 

Possible improvements:

1. Meeting and event start times: Many folks didn't bring watches, get distracted, etc.  Some of the meetings and events didn't start on time.  Usually this is just another opportunity to socialize under the big top, but at times a person may be have work to do on their bike, cooking to do, etc.  I would suggest a loud horn, p.a. system or just someone going through the pits announcing meetings.  Give a 5 minute warning, then start the meeting at the scheduled time.

2. The dry erase board with the schedule for the day could be posted somewhere where it could be viewed from a bike.

3. Generators: this is a camping trip.  My vision of camping doesn't include a loud generator droning in my ear.  And many folks were unfortunate enough to be parked closer to generators than we were.  Wouldn't it be nice to be able to talk without raising your voice, and maybe even hear a few coyotes at night?  I never did get a good explanation on why so many folks were running the generators.  Why does a $50,000-$200,000 RV have a $.79 muffler on the generator?  Having separate areas for tents and RVs isn't the solution.  The best solution I can come up with is for people to run the generators in the middle of the day during riding time, charge up the batteries, and shut them off around supper time.  Quite honestly, if you are sitting in the RV you are missing out on possibly the best part of dirtweek: the socializing with all of the great people!

4. MX Track/campground garbage cans: Maybe the last two dirt week events spoiled me, but both at Casey in '01 and last year at Cooperland, the MX track was groomed on a regular basis (and watered if needed).  I didn't see much of that this year.  The tracks were definitely rideable, but not what I expected.  Some of the jumps had some wicked kickers and ruts on the faces.  Also it was tough keeping up with everyones garbage.  I'm sure Kris was very busy all week with many things and it appeared he was trying to do about everything by himself-maybe next year he will want to hire a guy or two to help out during dirtweek to keep up. 

5. Dirt Bag Band: Don't know all the details of why this didn't happen, but many folks would have enjoyed it!

6. This may only be a negative thing "in my opinion".  As the event grows, what I would call "the core group" (those who post regularly and/or participate in other DRN events) gets watered down by other attendees and constitues a lower % of the total attendees.  All else being equal, I would expect  the trend to continue next year.  Also, the bigger the event, the more difficult it is to organize events and everything else (great job folks!).  For me, this begins to detract from the original concept (as I perceive it anyway) of the event.  I still had a great time regardless. 



Posted by: dkortje

This was my first year, and i definitely enjoyed it. Overall, I thought the organization was very good. The sponsors and give aways were also great. The people were all very nice and accomodating, and cooperland is just the greatest track!! I agree, it would be nice to have a better communication forum for when things will be late or off schedule, like the loud speaker idea. Personally, i hve no problems with the generators, they are as much a part of motocross as motorcycles, but I appreciate those who tried to keep the noise down by shairing with neighbors. My biggest disappointment was when they shut down the track Friday. I hate seeing injuries as much as anyone, and in fact I was one of the first to respond to that last incedent, but accidents are a part of our sport. It wasn't the tracks fault, and we had all come there to ride, which then we couldn't do. This just forced more people onto the little tracks which then got more dangerous. Finally, next year could you make sure the weather is perfect 100% of the time instead of just 80% (just kidding). overall though, great job, hope to come back next year!!



Posted by: oldguy

next year if we are fortunate enough to have Briggs (Zoomer) and Proclean sponsor the bike wash materials we should look at renting a large capacity water tank. There has to be a farmer or coop in the area with a 1000 gal or bigger. We would have to set a fee if you want to wash the bike and please people they are DIRTbikes so don't be spit polishing the shine every time you fire it up.



Posted by: XRpredator

I know the local fertilizer outfits around here set one up for about $600 for the summer, can't remember what size we got, but I think it's 10,000 gallon . . . good idea oldguy



Posted by: zio

First and foremost, can we do something to ensure that Okie & his family do not get any more responsibilities than they already have? I was a little bummed that I didn't see Okie or Thump in their gear even once. That just didn't feel right. And Scooter, Crispy, Jim, Shiftless, Pokie and Kristen all looked as if they'd been through an IRS audit, two weddings, Thanksgiving dinner and a root canal by Saturday night. I felt pretty bad.

I have one suggestion (more to come, I'm sure)- it seems like the one quad they had to share was always in demand. With them being so busy and Cooperland being so spread out, I think we should try to get them at least one more to use for the week.



Posted by: Patman

I agree on both points Zio. I'd rather create less work and more fun for everybody involved. Simplifying or spreading the load is about the only solution.



Posted by: DougRoost

I agree with all the good things listed above as well as some of the areas of improvement. Re: water, I understand from discussing this for the SpodeWash around Camp Tejas that Kris has access to a city water line. However, a line would need to be run and there may be a connect fee. That sounds like a VERY good project to help with before next year for so many reasons...

I also believe we have to enforce a rule that seems obvious but clearly wasn't: big bikes and little bikes cannot be on the track at the same time. Not for practice, not for photos, not at all. I saw this too many times and we're lucky we didn't have more injuries as a result of it. As DW grows this will get worse if it's not enforced. So just like our local tracks do, we need to plan a set time each day to close the track for kids.

The next step up would be to have more structured moto practices with at least minimal flaggers, but that's a lot of time/people commitments and seems to lose some of the DW spirit. To me this is like a larger, extended version of one of our club's monthly family days and too much structure would take away from it. Knowing there are times each day the track is closed for big bikes should remind people this is a fun family event vs. an extended race weekend.

So the other thing to think about are all the trophies for race winners. This was my first DW and Okie told us when we were lined up for our moto that this was just for fun, there were no points, etc. Thus, I was quite surprised to see plaques given out for 1-3 places in each class of the moto and HS (also yet more work for the organizers). I understand this was not previously done and people complained about that so this will be a tough one. It seems to me the thing people need to decide is how much we want to encourage competition vs. safety and fun for all. My fear is if we keep rewarding competition, accidents will get worse as DW grows and in the end the only racing allowed will be the Pro race.



Posted by: motometal

I agree with much of your post, Doug.

Both tracks did have specified times for small bikes, although this may not have been enforced.  Maybe we could clear all of the bikes off of the track, then post a sign (maybe the "flip over" type) indicating who is up for the next session and start again.

I was one of the guys on a "big" bike cutting laps on the smaller track...I was there because I actually have more fun on that track due to the tight corners and technical stuff (also as a whole it was in better shape than the big track).  A big "I'm sorry" to anyone I aggravated being there.  I did my best to look out for the little bikes, give them plenty of room, and help them up when needed.  The smallest guys out there (some of which were unsupervised) may have been better off on the kiddie track near the start of the woods course, but the location of that track makes it less convenient.

Regarding the powerwasher: it just isn't practical to try to keep 300 bikes clean in muddy weather with one power washer.   I spent a total of about 7 minutes on the power washer all week and got by just fine using a plastic spatula and a few other tools.   No complaints from our camp on the powerwasher, other than it would have been handy for cleaning up a specific areas of the bike for maintenance and repairs.



Posted by: mx547

Quote:
Originally posted by dkortje
Finally, next year could you make sure the weather is perfect 100% of the time instead of just 80% (just kidding).


the forecast for this week is for highs in the upper 70's, lows in the mid 50's and no rain. it figures. :silly:



Posted by: Okiewan

All points taken....
Just got home and won'[t address them all, but will say that next year, there will be some changes. First and foremost will be track scheduling. FYI; there will be only one way on and one way off the track as Kris completes the fencing, making enforcement a lot easier. There will be practice sessions and flaggers in place anytime the big track is open. This was the first year we saw so many and so many skill levels on the track at the same time. I expect the sessions to last all day, each day, just depends on how many flaggers we can get... for sure; if you ride, you will do some time flagging.

We "should" have water next year and at least some electricity.

The PA system should also be in-place next year, through-out the pits.

More later.



Posted by: BEEF706

This was my first DW and let me say THANKS to Okie Pokie Shiftless Thump and all the others I know I'm forgetting it was a GREAT TIME. I have been to a lot of races etc and have never seen more cooperation and lesss bitchin'. I would agree with a couple of the points made above, the sign for track access is a great idea and I might be able to come up with one, I also think from Wed. on we might have to organize practice times (A/B C/kids) and maybe some of us could voluteer to flag the practices we aren't riding ( I know I would) as more people come each year and many of them are not familiar with "track behavior" this might be a wise thing, I know that the accidents on Friday hit Okie hard, maybe the rest of us could kind of lessen that burden. And speaking as one of the guys who didnt bring his watch an alarm for the meetings is a great idea. I really loved the campfire, chili cook off tag team MX and trials class , next year I think I might have to rig up a light for the nighttime poker run, I can't really complain about the generators, I had so much fun everyday i probably coule have slpet throught a bombing run!



Posted by: dirty~d~

I know I wasn't there, but I hear that people were speeding through the pits... I for one will not tolerate that when I'm there next year. I'd suggest 'punishing' those who act wreckless. If you get caught speeding through the pits or causing problems on the trail courses you lose your riding privileges for the day, even if there is a race. Safety needs to be a priority with that many people in one area. Just my $0.02.



Posted by: dead

Quote:
Originally posted by dirty~d~
[]I know I wasn't there, but I hear that people were speeding through the pits... I for one will not tolerate that when I'm there next year. I'd suggest 'punishing' those who act wreckless. If you get caught speeding through the pits or causing problems on the trail courses you lose your riding privileges for the day, even if there is a race. Safety needs to be a priority with that many people in one area. Just my $0.02. [/]


Does that apply to mooning? Still trying to forget the night time Poker Run. I think I got "the butthole salute" about 5 times that night. :whiner:



Posted by: Thump

As for the speeding in the pits... for the most part it was by children (exception being Stan going brap, brap, brap and looking at the roost everywhere he went). Oldguy had a good suggestion that I agree with. You tell them once, then the second time you impound their bike and have their parents come get it.

Maybe flaggers could be rewarded with some of the giveaways that way parents that don't ride will be inclined to volunteer? Lord knows we had plenty of give away stuff this year.

The only thing I am certain of is that there will be A LOT more planning for the next one.



Posted by: gospeedracer

Can I volunteer to be the impounder?!



Posted by: Tony Eeds

Quote:
Originally posted by gospeedracer
Can I volunteer to be the impounder?!


I second the nomination .... all in favor?



Posted by: dirty~d~

Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Eeds


I second the nomination .... all in favor?


I third the nomination.



Posted by: GETMETOCA

The Abominable Auntie Aimee........

"AYE" all else in favor?



Posted by: Rooster

"Aye"



Posted by: gospeedracer

I know a certain fiddy Imma impound next year if it's butt-nugget rider does something stupid again.



Posted by: Senior KX Rider

One question Aimee. After you impound the kids...........how long do we have before we have to come get them???????



Posted by: biglou

Yeah, JP, you better watch it next year...



Posted by: gospeedracer

Mark, not impound the kids, their bikes! But you may be on to something there.............. If you can provide proof that it belongs to you, I will give you a map to the tree your kid is duct taped to in the woods.



Posted by: blackhawk468

lmao!



Posted by: gospeedracer

I vote next year we institute a leash law for kids and let the dogs run free.



Posted by: GETMETOCA

What's this????????????????????    Can it be???  Motherly instinct at last??

 

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Posted by: gospeedracer

That's what I call my python squeeze move. If you squeeze them tight enough they stop screaming. I got dang near $65.00 for that one on the black market.

Be forewarned now. If your kid turns up missing at DW04 you might find em on ebay.



Posted by: Senior KX Rider





Posted by: BunduBasher

To give Okie and crew a break, that maybe one or some of the days be run by the mods and volunters, maybe each day a different crew run the show (if at all possible) - or at least have two teams, so you get one day on and one day off - 3 teams would be even better ! - one day on, two days off

I definitely plan to attend a few more days next year - missing the team hare scramble and poker run was a bummer.



Posted by: Crispy

Great ideas everyone! Please keep them coming... FYI - there is a similar post going on in the DW 03 planning and volunteers forum...

A lot of the ideas you have talked about here are already in the works for next year, so please continue to let us know what your thoughts are, we take your suggestions/concerns very seriously. You can always pm/email myself or Pokie anytime!



Posted by: biglou

Some basic rules for which class to run in the events. Seems like MX is the main event with protests. Brief explanation for skill level posted on the sign up table. I suspect there are quite a few people who are not regulars on the board or who are not even memebers (came as friends of members) who figure C class is C class. I know the leaders in the C class ride pretty much like the Beginner class riders around here. Some clear jumps, some don't. Some brief descriptions about the DW skill levels should help with which classes to run.



Posted by: High Lord Gomer

I think the class division worked this year very well. I was watching the C class and was proud that there weren't any sandbaggers in there doing a bunch of jumps. Some of the B riders could have / should have run the A class, but it wasn't bad.

I do think we should institute a new rule that anyone who finished top 5 one year must move up the following year.

I did hear (second hand) that someone complained about Ricky running the Kid's A class, but he is 14, rides 5 or 6 times a year, and was riding his mother's beat up 8 year old KX80, so I wasn't going to make him ride with the big bikes. Honestly, he surprised me and scared the crap out of Lori. He had never jumped that new step-up until he was in the race. He wadded up the 80 a few months ago trying to jump something he shouldn't have and I didn't fix it until the day before leaving for DW.



Posted by: BunduBasher

just a notice to all, with regard to the porta loos - make sure you bring your own toilet paper next year !!!!



Posted by: XRpredator

yes, a good plan to carry your own bung fodder. Take it from someone who has shortened up a few sleeves over the years . . .



Posted by: Timr

Mikeb had to sacrifice one of his socks!



Posted by: blackhawk468

TMI



Posted by: Mikeb

Umm That was your sock Timr :scream:



Posted by: BunduBasher

this gives new meaning to the term "bog roll" :scream:



Posted by: DoubleTrouble

Next year we will make it more than 1 day and bring our families with us. My girl, Taika (6) "Mo Trouble", had a ball and so did my nephew, Jonathan (9) "lil Bundu".

I watched him practice on the kids track and spent some time rescuing little tykes who had come a cropper and were left stranded on the track. Where were their parents ? In think for posted practice times the tracks need to be flagged.

1) Family who have someone practicing need to be "volunteered". I'm game.
2) For the Porta-potties, I suggest placing more than one at the designated location - Yeah, and carry your own bog-roll.
3) For offenders, speeding in the campground, no helmets, generator abusers, mooning, etc. there needs to be some penalty - Put them in the stocks and hurl bad fruit and abuse at them. This can be held at a specific time during the day. Say high noon and all offenders are punished alike. Confiscating a bike is far too cruel !
4) For more interaction, evening events like Texas Poker or Bachelor/ette Auction - (Julius Pleaser sounds like a winner). A charity auction may be an idea. This way we can get to meet the characters and put names to their faces.
5) Provide staff relief for Okie, Pokie and Shiftless WRT registering new arrivals, etc. Put up a roster and take a turn in assisting. Count me in.

Thanks Okie, family and crew for a well organized event.



Posted by: oldguy

Quote:
Originally posted by High Lord Gomer
I did hear (second hand) that someone complained about Ricky running the Kid's A class, but he is 14, rides 5 or 6 times a year, and was riding his mother's beat up 8 year old KX80, so I wasn't going to make him ride with the big bikes. Honestly, he surprised me and scared the crap out of Lori. He had never jumped that new step-up until he was in the race. He wadded up the 80 a few months ago trying to jump something he shouldn't have and I didn't fix it until the day before leaving for DW.

Gomer that complaint was handled by myself- it was nothing more then a sore loser. He came off the track claiming it was a big bore and I laughed at him and told him he needed to twist the throttle harder if he wanted to keep up.



Posted by: truespode

There is nothing big bore about that bike... I am surprised the zip ties and bubble gum has held up as well as it has

Ivan



Posted by: Patman

What ever happened to "It's all about having fun"? Ricky was having fun and so he was relaxed and rode the best I've ever seen him do at a Dirt Week. 95% rider & 5% bike anyway right?



Posted by: High Lord Gomer

LOL! It does have an 85 cylinder on it, but that is somewhat negated by the crushed pipe where I had to bend the silencer back after it was pointing out the side. I'm surprised that it still runs. :confused:

What made me the happiest was that he must be listening to me a little. I've told him to never follow people and he didn't. He was 4th going into the first turn and passed 2 by turning inside. He then passed the leader in the 2nd turn by turning tight again.

I just wish I had listened to my own advice.



Posted by: Rich Rohrich

Quote:
Originally posted by High Lord Gomer
He wadded up the 80 a few months ago trying to jump something he shouldn't have ...


Must be Lori's "take-no--prisoners, hey watch this, of course I can clear that huge jump " bad influence creeping in.



Posted by: Chili

Quote:
Originally posted by Rich Rohrich


Must be Lori's "take-no--prisoners, hey watch this, of course I can clear that huge jump " bad influence creeping in.






Posted by: Pokie

wow.... very good points....they all have merit. It's both a challenge and fun (actually) to make improvements especially when they are noticed and appreciated.
By the way, as for schedule changes: all are announced at each day's RIDERS MEETING that all are required to attend, and the white board reflects the changes.... Notice the difference in crowd size under the tent during these meetings Vs the AWARDS presentation on the last evening?
We need to emphasize that the RIDERS MEETING is not just a pep talk about riding but also about all those issues that are being mentioned in this thread.
That kids dont show up for these early morning meetings is not surprising, but we need to make their adult supervisors/parents responsible for imparting the messages of these meetings to their short-attention span kids.
I can just see it now, next year the PA system will wake everyone up with the well known refrain from a Robin Williams movie: GOOD MORNING DIRTRIDERS...



Posted by: rv6junkie

Quote:
Originally posted by Pokie
That kids dont show up for these early morning meetings is not surprising, but we need to make their adult supervisors/parents responsible for imparting the messages of these meetings to their short-attention span kids.


We had a simple rule for the kids in my group: If you didn't attend the morning meeting, you didn't ride that day. Needless to say but no one missed a meeting.



Posted by: motometal

I was aware of the board, but some of the days there were many events going on and I couldn't remember when was what, and the board couldn't be seen from a bike.&nbsp; I'm not complaining, I guess I could have just brought a pen and paper along.



Posted by: Pokie

we already talked about a larger board near the track entrance.... we are not short of ideas...



Posted by: Dapper

This being my first and hopefully not last DW. I really have no complaints with how the events went. The only comment I have, since I mostly spectated the only thing I notice is the number of people that can't tell time. If the schedule says 10:00 for the team HS it and it's announced be there by 9:30 that's when you be there. I saw guys coming over after the start time. Just seems if the first event goes off late it just snowballs. So the thing I think will make DW04 better is to "be on time". Those people have enough to do please don't make them wait. :thumb:



Posted by: rv6junkie

I'd like to see the multiple entrances to the main track reduced to just a few. Doing this would address two safety concerns I had:

1) Kids and adults co-mingling being on track when they should not have been. The kids really didn’t pay any attention to the track schedule (I had to chase my own son off a few times). If there was only one or two entrances to the track the schedule could have been enforced, and

2) People just entering where ever they pleased, sometimes at places where a rider already on the track couldn’t see the other rider entering.

Of course, these changes would require volunteers. For safety-sake I’m sure a lot of us would agree to watch the gate for an hour.



Posted by: Okiewan

( FYI: when the fencing is complete (before next DW), there will be only one way on and off the main track )



Posted by: Weld it

Okie,

How about when you sign up for the races you are assigned a time for flagging on the MX track before or after your race or practice session
( ie: if you race the C class you flag the A - class, bikes with lights flag the C class )? I volunteered for all of the practice and the first 3 or 4 moto's. It gives you a vantage spot to watch from and it is greatly needed.

Or even put some benefit of flagging to encourage participation :

Reserved seating for the give aways or extra ticket two ?

A drawing just for people who did flag ?

I know someone was riding around on a 4 wheeler ( sorry I forgot who )
offering water / soda for the flaggers and that was greatly appreciated.


Granted it you shouldn't have to give something to entice participation
but it is very important to have flaggers out there to cut down on injuries /
accidents.

Weld it



Posted by: Okiewan

Sorry I don't have a lot of time to reply to all the comments (in the middle of a relocation)...skimming over all the great suggestions/comments...

That was BSWIFT doing the flagger-run, very much appreciated.

As soon as we get the homestead settled, the clan will converse



Posted by: Crispy

Uh... Okie... theres a DW meeting Thursday at dads...I am sending the DRN jet for you... be there in time for dinner.. 6:00.. :-)

Thank you for the great suggestions ... we may not be able to incorporate them all by next year, but they do not go unheard. Keep 'em coming!



Posted by: BSWIFT

I rode the Poker Run in Casey '01.&nbsp; Since then, I have just as much fun riding and shooting the bull.&nbsp; Helping folks when they need it is just part of the way I was brought up.&nbsp; Now that Okie is an OKIE, again, he'll have a better opportunity to set things up in advance to his liking.&nbsp; I'll be there to help AND to play devil's advocate.&nbsp; I really, REALLY want to cut down on the injuries in '04.



Posted by: RAHRAH

Id like to say that everyone did a great job at my first Dirtweek. It will definitely not be my last. I think that it is great to have something so massive and wonderful to look forward to year after year were everyone meets on the same page. Its like your really long lost family reunion(forgive me Im from Ark.) Id hate to hear someone leave from DW bitchin' Id think that even the greats of Guy Cooper and Dr D had a blast.
My only recomendation is more of everything. More racing, poker runs, giveaways, track, trails, camping, hookups, water, days(or weeks), did i say trails, hs, single track, ridin, Eddies cookin, night time ridin, trials trails, and last that I can remember right now a lot more workers.
Everyone did a great job with every event happening. The problem is that DW is only going to get bigger so I think that it is fair to say that the workers, instead of work effort, should be growing at a larger rate. And none of the workers even got to enjoy themselves anywhere near the amount that I did. The most I worked was on supper and videoin the motox races. That is not being fair to all of the participants. If you dont work you dont eat. the same goes for DW. Dont work Dont ride. Im a giving type of person and I feel like I owe all of the workers a little extra hand and I feel like we should all give back what we are actually given in. The number of people that put on an enduro is twice the # that was working too hard to enjoy DW. Somethings wrong here. there are more people working a 5hr event than what are working a 7 day Mardi gras. for Dirtriders.

I ride to get a vacation and to enjoy the different scenery and to log the miles on. Just bc im on a great vacation doesn't mean that I cant help with something that I enjoy. It is sometimes hard to give up the riding though. DW was my first time on a MX track, my first harescamble and trophy, my first poker run on the dirt, And the Very Best fun I have had at 10 at night. There needs to be a nighttime run every night. Im willing to pay an extra 10 a day if you will I think that it was cheaper to be at DW for a week than it would have been to stay at home for the week Fun Factor of only 20 dollars for everyday is a great deal....

I think I Didn't get to ride enough with everybody I didn't get to bs enough with everybody but the workers worked enough for everybody.

Thanks to everyone that gave me the opportunity to truely enjoy my only weeks vacation that I will be sure to get about the same time every year.
Can I please have a reason to get 2DWs off of work.
Thanks for being the coolest and the best
Jon



Posted by: Pokie

more of everything?... including (pretend) fist fights in the dark???

will we have to add a "motard" race too? hmmmm, Brownie would have to provide some blacktop somewhere........... Hopefully we can have the GP race that everyone signed up for...next year.



Posted by: RAHRAH

hey Pokie we are still dirt riders ok
Id like to say that Im sorry for entering wereevernthheck I could get in on the kidie track. I feel as though it is fair to enter the track AS LONG AS YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE about it. just like how Dr D did. my bad different scenario. It was my first track time and if I could get a rythm instead of a rut I would ride a few more laps on a track. It took me 3 days to get the nerve up to want to ride the big track because I was an embarassment to 10 year olds and women. I shouldve had a pink outfit on or maybe even a ten foot flag whipin in the air. i really didn't realize that motocrossers get p od when someone isn't dragin down the starting streatch to enter the race track. I feel like its a big track so the is no need to enter were you aren't wanted. Have a popup at the entrance and the next few riders that get there after the fast track users go through or when they are on the other side of the track let the ones that just arrived in the last 30 sec or min. take out. It would almost be like havin a race all of the time.
I just sat down to say Im sorry for entering the track and for holding up everyone in playmode. the track was a dif kind of challenge for me being a woods rider. I really think that DW2K4 could be just like the last I would be very grateful. That if I can get Smitty to give me 1st in the tag team again. This was really a great week I cant wait to get back(10 mo. 14 days 3 hrs.)

thanks for everyone hard work and determination to make the next better



Posted by: woodsguy2000

I am sure the powers that be are still trying to recover from this years event. But I have a question, is there a date for the '04 event yet? I have to pick vacations for next year on weds. the 19th! Thanks.

Rob



Posted by: Okiewan

Nothing is nailed down, but we are shooting for Sep. 27 - Oct. 2.



Posted by: XRpredator

nail that sucker down!



Posted by: Crispy

Thought I would pop in to let you all know... that we have taken EVERY suggestion listed here and evaluated the cost/effort for each and incorporated what we can for next year... needless to say I think the only thing we wont do is STAFF t-shirts because of the cost!

Thank you all for all the great suggestions and comments. I think that next years event will be even better from an organizational and safety stand point! We will be asking for volunteers to help out more next year... so be ready! Thanks again!

Chris



Posted by: woodsguy2000

Thanks for the info on the date. Will see if I can swing it. We bid vacations by seniority, even with 27 years I still bid 4th.



Posted by: Okiewan

Quote:
I think the only thing we wont do is STAFF t-shirts because of the cost!


I have a possible solution for that.



Posted by: Okiewan

FYI: I should know about the dates today or tomorrow.



Posted by: Patman

Quote:
Originally posted by Okiewan


I have a possible solution for that.

Beanies with propellers?



Posted by: biglou

Quote:
Originally posted by Patman

Beanies with propellers?
I got mine! :thumb:



Posted by: Patman

Lou has to wear a kitten skin cap. :scream: The kitten skin trench coat is optional Lou



Posted by: Tony Eeds

Quote:
Originally posted by Patman

Beanies with propellers?


Put one on your helmet and lean back when you are totally out of control. Float off the bike and gently down to earth ...

Seriously, I don't mind kicking in and buying my own. Brian and I can be Water Boys ... :thumb:



Posted by: Dapper

"Make it better"? How on earth could it get any better. The weather sucked but I had a blast!!! Really. I can make it better for me by riding more, helping flag and other things as needed. 04 is gong to be better just because it will be my second DW :thumb:




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