Green sticker 2 strokes in California

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  1. dorkal

    dorkal Rookie DRN Member

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    Do you guys know which if any 2 stroke bikes can be green stickered here in california? I want a 2 stroke but I want to be able to ride the trails year round. Do I just need a spark arrestor? I'll be buying a 01 or 02 bike. Thanks for any info!


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    RE: green 2 stroke

    I think the only '01/'02 green 2 strokes are KTM G-models. Otherwise buy from out-of-state, like Canada. Spark arrestors are required on all bikes on public riding areas.
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    Dorkal,
    A freind of mine bought a new 2001 kx125 and got a green sticker..I bought my 250 a few months later and got a red sticker.. I think its kinda "luck of the draw" who knows.. Are you buying a new or used bike??
    Rick
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    To get a green sticker for sure you need a pre 1998 2 stroke
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    Some DMV's run out of or don't have red stickers, so they give out a green sticker in it's place. Another words, you got lucky for the next two years. I've talked to a few guys who've done this, and they immidiately tell all there riding buddies which DMV it is! Gotta pull every trick you can I guess.

    All two-strokes 98 on are red sticker, no matter what. A friend of mine that rides trials bikes says that all trials bikes get a green sticker, but that is due to the extremly low amount of trials bikes sold in California.

    If you insist on a 01 or new 2-stroke, you're gonna have to live with owning a 'red sticker' bike. I'm not holding my breath for the emissions standards to lower in this state, so any bike I buy must be a 'green sticker' bike.

    Matt
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    Thanks for the info. Hmmm. What would be a good 4 stroke trail and mx bike? I don't want the red sticker! California sucks when it comes to this crap. Geez.
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    Re: RE: green 2 stroke

    The G model is the RFS line up, which are 4 strokes and only the 02's are green bikes. The word in the underground is that the entire 03' line up of RFS' will be green bikes.
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    dorkal.

    Look at the Vin#. If the Vin# has a '3' or a 'C' in the eighth digit, then it is red sticker only. Count all numbers and letters back to the eighth digit.

    If you can go with a four stroke, you might want to look at an out of state or Canadian model WR Yamaha. These make great track or trail bikes and you can even get them dual sported in California if they have the right Vin#.

    Just my $ .02
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    I think it is actually 96 and older, a few 97's made into the grandfather years because they were made before Jan. 1st, 97. Some of the licky ones that get a green sticker on a new bike may still find a red sticker in the mail box when it comes time to renew, plus a ranger can take it away if he wants to. :(
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    "ranger can take it away if he wants to"

    I would debate that statement.

    Is the ranger's responsibility to enforce having a registration - green or red, or is it to determine whether the bike should have a green vs red and whether the DMV acted in error, etc?

    It would appear that there are circumstances where a 2-stroke could legally have a green sticker and the assumption is that the DMV is accountable for proper issuance and needs to be held accountable - not the rider/owner...
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    Stickers

    Is there an AMA page that would have a list of the current red/green stickered bikes? I've checked the district 36's web site (they have an article explaining this mess) and show manufacture/models but I think it may only be accurate to the time of the article.

    About getting a bike from out of state or Canada. I assume that works because they don't have dirt bikes registered with a DMV? Would there be anything I'd need to do to prove residency anywhere?
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    well, what you can do is get a bike that was made before 1997 cuz they made those green/red sticker things. you can also just make it street legal for the green.
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    I've sorted thru this mess recently and the rules are pretty clear. Post 97 two strokes and a majority of "high performance" four strokes get red stickers. The only new bikes I'm aware of that get green stickers are:

    Honda XRs
    Kaw KLXs
    Yam TTRs
    KTM G model RFSs

    My understanding is that some Husky 4-strokes will also be green sticker in 2003. What's not clear today, is enforcement. In many places it remains pretty random and luck still plays a big role. My guess is that going forward the rules will be more consistently enforced and the value of having a green sticker will increase.
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    Green sticker for '02 KDX220R

    I bought my '02 KDX220R in February and got a green sticker.
    I don't know why I got the green sticker.....but my dealer said there is NO guarantee next time.

    Mini
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    the dmv is so screwed up in california, i was told they really are not enforcing the green/red sticker that much until the dmv can sort out the right stickers to the right bikes, my O2 cr250 got a green sticker, like LOCOCD said, its the DMV's responsibility to distribute the correct sticker.
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    For all of the happy recipients of a green when it should have been red sticker... I understand the DMV just did an audit and found some 29,000 erroneously distributed stickers. I also understand that they have been told to get these straightened out in the next 2 cycles, this implies that the sticker situation will be sorted out by July 2003. Until then enjoy your good fortune!
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    The best way to do it, is ride were the rangers dont go. Dont stop for the BLM, dont say hi to the BLM. They are not your friends. They are kind of like a rattlesnake, If you leave them alone, they will tend to ignore you.
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    '02 RM 250. Canadian purchase, and got green sticker from DMV. The VIN has the nasty 8th character, even though not a US bike. Made an appointment to register the bike at the Inglewood office, and that's what they gave me. Not holding my breath that the next will be the same, but when the renewal shows up, I'll walk it in, rather than mail. Probably head back towards Inglewood.

    mg
  20. ScottYZ250

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    If you're buying a new bike, talk to the dealers. They'll tell you what percentage of their bikes are getting green. Some dealers are getting a higher percentage than others. I've even heard some are almost guaranteeing green! But remember, it is a crap shoot... :uh:



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