RECENT POSTS



PLEASE SUPPORT DIRTRIDER
Help cover the site's expences for
our 21st year online!

$1, $5, it all helps!



Help!! Cant Bleed Clutch Line

Joined
Feb 25, 2001
Messages
90
Likes
0
#1
I am in the process of putting my 99 250 exc back together after the horrible tumble off the trailer. Just installed a new clutch line but I am having trouble bleeding the line. The syringe will hardly even compress and when it does the oil seems to seep out at the top of the bleeder nipple. What could be my problem? I am new at this so I dont really have any ideas. I am so close to having this thing back up and running, so I would greatly appreciate all your help so maybe I cant get back out in a few days.

Thanks!!!

------------------
1999 KTM 250 E/XC
 
Joined
Dec 5, 2000
Messages
44
Likes
0
#3
Remove the master cylinder cover? I'm guessing.

Gary

------------------
It's not how fast you can go but how much fun you have!
 
Joined
Feb 25, 2001
Messages
90
Likes
0
#4
Strick,

No Luck. I loosened both line fittings but to no avail. The m/c cover is off. Maybe I have the cheapest syringe money can buy! HA!! It is very frustrating when your trying to learn to wrench on the bike and little things like this pop up.

Any other suggestions before I take her to the shop.



------------------
1999 KTM 250 E/XC
 

Strick

Lifetime Sponsor
Joined
Nov 8, 1999
Messages
1,782
Likes
2
#5
First things first. The reservoir cap is off. The clutch line is unobstructed. The bleed fitting is un-tightened. Here's a couple of more things to try. Try pulling the fluid backwards from the reservoir to the syringe. Pump the lever a couple of times with the fitting loose. It has been a while since I have done this. I will rack my brain to see if any thing else pops up.

------------------
Strick '99 KTM 300mxc, AMA & BRC member
 
- a d v e r t i s e m e n t -

Joined
Feb 25, 2001
Messages
90
Likes
0
#6
I will give it a try tomorrow and let you know how it goes. If you have any more ideas post them and I'll get them in the morning. Thanks for your help.




------------------
1999 KTM 250 E/XC
 

jeb

Member
Joined
Jul 21, 1999
Messages
633
Likes
0
#7
Sometimes you have to loosen the bleeder valve quite a ways to make it easy to push the fluid in. If that doesn't work, I'd check the line or banjo bolts for obstructions.

------------------
John Brunsgaard - JEB
01 KTM 400 EXC
99 KTM 250 EXC
99 KTM 200 EXC
98 KTM 125 EXC
98 KTM 380 MXC (gone)
96 KDX 200
 
- a d v e r t i s e m e n t -

Joined
Jan 15, 2001
Messages
30
Likes
0
#8
I had the same thing happen to me when I was back bleeding the line. This is what I used and what I did.

I bought a syringe from Wal*Mart ($2.00)in the boat isle I think and two 1/2" hose clamps ($1.00) and used a pice of gas cap line. I fitted hose to syringe and clamped with one hose clamp. I then pushed hose and last hose clamp onto bleeder nipple. Once on tight and clamped loosen the bleeder nipple and push the fluid. I remember it was quite stiff to push the fluid through but put some a$$ into it. You will need some one to catch the fluid which spills over at the m/c and watch for the air bubbles to disappear in the line. Once that occours spin the syringe to close the nipple and then tighten with box wrench. You will need to remove additional fluid at the m/c (4mm below rim) before closing it up. Remove the syringe and pump the lever to regain pressure, Then recheck level of fluid. Good luck. Hope this helps.

------------------
01'520E/XC
 
Joined
Oct 13, 1999
Messages
90
Likes
0
#10
I will be installing a stainless steel clutch hose on my bike very soon and this thread got me thinking... is there a way to bleed the system with my mity-vac?

thanks

------------------
Jay
2001 KTM 250 E/XC
NETRA & AMA Member

Chicken Wrist Racing
TWIST IT!!!!
 
- a d v e r t i s e m e n t -

jeb

Member
Joined
Jul 21, 1999
Messages
633
Likes
0
#11
Sure, vac pumps works too. Just make sure to have someone adding fluid at the resevoir.

------------------
John Brunsgaard - JEB
01 KTM 400 EXC, 99 KTM 250 EXC, 99 KTM 200 EXC, 98 KTM 125 EXC, 98 KTM 380 MXC (gone)
96 KDX 200
 
Joined
Jul 20, 2000
Messages
211
Likes
0
#12
When you put pressure on the syringe, pull the clutch lever all the way open...in the resting position the lever puts just enough force on the plunger to close the line if you have the release point adjusted...this happened to me the first time I tried bleeding my clutch
Gary

------------------
 
Joined
Apr 10, 2001
Messages
25
Likes
0
#13
I bled mine like this...<fill resivoir,tighten all fittings and bleeder, pump the clutch lever several times and hold, open bleeder slowly, closeand repeat until fluid comes out of the bleeder. You will need to fill the resivoir a couple of times during this operation....

------------------
Katooms rule
 
Joined
Jul 27, 2000
Messages
27
Likes
0
#14
C -
When all else fails, go to the book. It may seem trite, but one of the first things I did was buy the KTM-issue syringe, tube, and special fitting that replaces your bleeder fitting at the bottom. When I have worked on my clutch, I have left the remaining fluid in, and sometimes have drained it all out to get a fresh start. Either way, the KTM rig works very well. It cost me a few bucks, but compared to what you've been through, it was well worth the several hours of frustration you've endured with no results. I'll spend a few $$ to save some time any day!
"You can do ANY job if you have the right tool."

Jack

------------------
 
Joined
Mar 19, 2001
Messages
212
Likes
0
#15
I bought a mighty vac thinking it was the cure to my week long clutch bleeding adventure but it didn't help.

The prob I discovered was small air bubbles in the master cylinder that I could get to bleed out. I finally read the manual and pushed the fluid up from the slave cylinder using some fuel line and a cap off some differential lube. I removed the bleed screw and pushed atf from the bottle until it appeared in the master cylinder. This takes some time. I then quickly screwed in the bleed screw. There's no need to bleed cause there's no trapped air in the slave cylinder to bleed.


------------------
-------------------------
2001 KTM 400SX #529
2000 SVCC 125cc H.S. #1
SPONSORS: MA'S CYCLE, SIDI, WD-40, ACERBIS, SMITH, SPROCKET SPECIALISTS, N-STYLE, WER, DEVOL.
 
- a d v e r t i s e m e n t -