Sliencer Packing Material! Performax
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I was gonna wait until I saw the condition of the Performax packing after 2 months of riding. But, I can do the preliminaries I guess.
There is more than enough for two packings(for me anyway)in the Performax package. Bike ran fine, didn't really notice any difference in the tone or volume. I used half of the Performax packing material in mid-October. I generally ride 1-2 times a week, so I probably have a dozen or more rides on the packing that is in there now.
Just for Yucks, I'll change it again tomorrow night and report back on how it has held up.
There is more than enough for two packings(for me anyway)in the Performax package. Bike ran fine, didn't really notice any difference in the tone or volume. I used half of the Performax packing material in mid-October. I generally ride 1-2 times a week, so I probably have a dozen or more rides on the packing that is in there now.
Just for Yucks, I'll change it again tomorrow night and report back on how it has held up.
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Paking: Better than the plain old insulation like stuff you buy at the shops. Easy installation, easier to work with, and enough for two packings. Does a nice job and holds up much better than the cheap stuff.
Fuel additive: I got a bottle of the grape, mixed up four gallons of gas, and had several people sniffing the air and looking around all confused at Bluff Creek. Next ride, at Fort Dodge, I forgot to add some of the grape stuff, but the guys I was riding with said they could still smell the grapes! Cool stuff. Also, just having that stuff sitting on a shelf in my garage leaves the whole place smelling good.
Fuel additive: I got a bottle of the grape, mixed up four gallons of gas, and had several people sniffing the air and looking around all confused at Bluff Creek. Next ride, at Fort Dodge, I forgot to add some of the grape stuff, but the guys I was riding with said they could still smell the grapes! Cool stuff. Also, just having that stuff sitting on a shelf in my garage leaves the whole place smelling good.
Ive been using Performax for a quite a while now (before DW). I rode for like 3 months before I repacked it. the only reason i did repack it was because i wanted to see how it was holding up. in a two stroke, if its not spooging like crazy the stuff would last for a long time!
The main thing I like is the sound, it gives my bike a little bit crisper sound. oh, and I was there when they were comparing packings on the dyno, PerforMax really does outperform Silent Sport.
as for the smelly stuff, the grape is awesome! I think it probably works the best. Right now I have the chocolate, and i dont think it works real well, but im gonna try and ride tomorow and see. After that I will try cherry. There are a few fragrances that are supposed to work best with gasoline but i cant remember them right now. The stuff was originally designed for cars running alcohol cause of the nasty smell.
The main thing I like is the sound, it gives my bike a little bit crisper sound. oh, and I was there when they were comparing packings on the dyno, PerforMax really does outperform Silent Sport.
as for the smelly stuff, the grape is awesome! I think it probably works the best. Right now I have the chocolate, and i dont think it works real well, but im gonna try and ride tomorow and see. After that I will try cherry. There are a few fragrances that are supposed to work best with gasoline but i cant remember them right now. The stuff was originally designed for cars running alcohol cause of the nasty smell.
I promised that I would change my performax packing and report back.
Here you go:
I said earlier that I had installed the Performax packing material in mid October. I was incorrect, it was the first week of November. I used about half of the product supplied in the package, maybe a little bit less than half. Since then, I have ridden about 15 times. Some trails, some gravel pits.
The results:
When I got the silencer apart I found the packing in incredibly good shape for the length of time it had been in there. I could still see the poka-dot pattern in the packing material. It was blackened, but only one 2 inch long spot seemed to have lost any thickness at all; and that was minimal.
I was tempted to just cut off the blackened section and re-wrap the silencer with the used packing. I decided that Performax was inexpensive enough (two packings in one package). So I used the unused half I still had :confused: .
I've found a new packing material for my silencers.
Performax. :aj:
I think I'll get some of the grape aroma stuff too when I place my order for new Performax Silencer Packing.
Here you go:
I said earlier that I had installed the Performax packing material in mid October. I was incorrect, it was the first week of November. I used about half of the product supplied in the package, maybe a little bit less than half. Since then, I have ridden about 15 times. Some trails, some gravel pits.
The results:
When I got the silencer apart I found the packing in incredibly good shape for the length of time it had been in there. I could still see the poka-dot pattern in the packing material. It was blackened, but only one 2 inch long spot seemed to have lost any thickness at all; and that was minimal.
I was tempted to just cut off the blackened section and re-wrap the silencer with the used packing. I decided that Performax was inexpensive enough (two packings in one package). So I used the unused half I still had :confused: .
I've found a new packing material for my silencers.
Performax. :aj:
I think I'll get some of the grape aroma stuff too when I place my order for new Performax Silencer Packing.
B
biglou
I just repacked Thunder33's T4 with Performax the other day. We are waiting for valve shims for valve adjust on the Hurricane (got a voicemail this morning that they are in now). So once we get it buttoned up, and if the weather holds, I will have a ride report.
- Feb 9, 2000
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I will be re-packing the silencer on the KTM200 in the next couple of weeks, I'll report back on the sound once I am done - and try to remember to post back again about 3 months down the road. Hey Lou - remind me would ya :)
All the NETRA Enduros will enforce mandatory sound tests this year, with a 96db limit. I figured the recent Snow Run would be a good time to give the Performax stuff a try out. My last repack was in October and I used Moose packing., which took two packages (at about $7 per each) to provide enough material for the FMF Q core silencer / SA on my ’03 KTM 250 EXC.
The Moose packing was approximately 1 inch thick and I needed a piece 12in x 19.5in. The Performax material has a denser feel to it and it required some experimentation to decide how much was enough. I ended up using a piece 12in x 14in which was around two thirds of what comes in the package. A couple of comments. The instructions say to put the “dimpled” side against the perforated tube of the silencer. Maybe it’s me, but which side had the dimples and which side did not was not obvious to me so I took my best guess. Also, after handling the Performax material I noticed a lot of little easily breathed-in fibers floating around like dust motes, so I added the precaution of wearing a little paper dust mask while I was working with it.
How did it work? Pretty well. My bike was very quiet with it. The last sound check I had to do (Moose packing with 3 rides on it) was 95 dB. This time it was 88 dB. Ok, I know that’s totally unscientific and that there are all manner of things that could explain the difference: different meters, testers, procedure, ambient conditions, etc. Still, my seat of pants impression was that the bike was a bit quieter with this packing and I’ve ordered a couple more packages to keep on hand.
The Moose packing was approximately 1 inch thick and I needed a piece 12in x 19.5in. The Performax material has a denser feel to it and it required some experimentation to decide how much was enough. I ended up using a piece 12in x 14in which was around two thirds of what comes in the package. A couple of comments. The instructions say to put the “dimpled” side against the perforated tube of the silencer. Maybe it’s me, but which side had the dimples and which side did not was not obvious to me so I took my best guess. Also, after handling the Performax material I noticed a lot of little easily breathed-in fibers floating around like dust motes, so I added the precaution of wearing a little paper dust mask while I was working with it.
How did it work? Pretty well. My bike was very quiet with it. The last sound check I had to do (Moose packing with 3 rides on it) was 95 dB. This time it was 88 dB. Ok, I know that’s totally unscientific and that there are all manner of things that could explain the difference: different meters, testers, procedure, ambient conditions, etc. Still, my seat of pants impression was that the bike was a bit quieter with this packing and I’ve ordered a couple more packages to keep on hand.
the dimples arent that critical, the packaging and shipping process kind of makes them "close up" as they are actually holes, not dimples. oh, and dont worry about those fibers, i used to work in an insulation supply place that dealt with the same stuff, we never wore masks, too much of a pain.
