97 Yz125 rides for 20mins, dies, then won't start

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Well here is the story,
I was riding my yz around the track in first gear you know just trying to get it warmed up and what not...Well it goes good for two laps and then I go around a turn and it just starts to die, I pull the throttle and then it sounds really deep like a four stroke...
I try to restart it and it won't. I put a brand new plug in and it won't fire off. I play with the throttle and it seems really really loose, like bunch of play in it... I took apart the carb and it looked fine to me, one question though... The float pin is that supposed to attach to the coil that the throttle pulls on? Other than that anyone have any ideas on how to get it fired?
Thanks,
Sam
 
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compression is good, it kicks like it wants to run, but for whatever reason I don't think that it's getting any gas, and I didn't attach the float pin to the spring that the cable pulls in when the throttle is pulled because I didn't know if I was supposed too...
 
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#4
get someone that knows what they are doing to rebuild the carb for you. That'll be your problem. Or even get a manual and check.
 
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Lets get some terms straight so that we don't all get confused.

The carburetor has a "float" that operates a valve the controls the level of gas in the "bowl". The thottle cable does not attach to the float in any way.

The typical two stroke carburetor has the throttle cable pass through the top of the carburetor and attach directly to the throttle valve, which is a rectangular "slide" that moves up and down. In the process of attaching to the slide it also connects to a "metering needle" that moves up and down with the slide. The metering needle will have several options for where it connects and that is used to adjust the amount the mixture is changed over the throttle range.

You should be able to remove the two screws that hold the top cap of the carburetor off and pull the throttle slide & metering needle out. Twisting the throttle should pull on the cable, pulling the slide up towards the "cap", compressing the spring. If that doesn't happen then something is wrong with the cable.

If the throttle cable is okay then it is possible that you had something mess up the carburetor. Perhaps some water got in the tank, or some dirt, and it worked its way into the carb. It could have plugged the float valve so that gas isn't entering the carburetor or it could have plugged up the main jet inside.

If you take the entire carburetor off and then turn it upside down you should have abotu a 1/2 cup of gas spill out. If there was no gas in the carburetor then either the float valve was plugged up or the tank was plugged up.

Properly cleaning the carburetor is a bit more involve than just taking it half apart and wiping it down. To really get the important areas clean you need to remove the main jet, float valve, idle screw, idle jet, etc. to open all the passages. Soak all the metal parts in a really strong solvent (carburetor cleaner) overnight. Wash everything in clean water, blow dry with compressed air. Blow compressed air through all the little passages to clean them out. You really should use all new gaskets to reassemble, and a new float valve seat is a good idea. The float level will need to be checked and adjusted anytime you have taken the carburetor apart, especially if you have removed the float valve (which you must do before soaking the carb in solvent, you don't want to soak the valve).

Before you start tearing the carburetor apart you should make sure that you are getting spark.

Rod
 
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I think his coil is going bad because its fine when its cold, but when they get hot they fail. As stated above, tell us if the spark is even present. If it is, tell us if it is orange or blue color.
 
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well, I've been fouling sparks like crazy lately, usually always end up black even after I remove and replace...i've been running 32:1...
 
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I have a '97 YZ 125 and it doesn't seem to like 32:1 very much. I run it at 40:1 and it runs like a champ.