I've read/seen lots of no-toil threads, but, has anyone seen or know about other manufacturers of the same type of stuff? My buddy just bought a Honda air filter kit kit (I have not seen it) and he says the cleaner is powder you mix w/water. If Honda is in it I wonder if Yamaha is? I checked their websites but neither Honda nor Yamaha show anything bio-degrade. I'm considering switching but have heard filters fall apart (certain ones) when using no-toil. I also heard that no-toil was a soap-base and was curious if it would thin if wetted and enter the cylinder causing washdown. Lots of questions, mainly curious bout other manufacturers.