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Canon 20D or what?

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Just feeling out a possible upgrade. I have the origonal version Digital Rebel and while I really can not complain about it I am thinking about upgrading (thanks Chili you set this in motion with that lens :cool: )
What would be a good step up staying canon as I have all canon lens. Looking on the internet it seems the 20D is priced almost the same and some places less then the new rebel version.
 

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Pretty much anything above your Rebel will give you all you'll need. I'd go with whatever I could get the best deal on Rebel XT, XTi, 20D or 30D. If you are in no rush, remind me at Millville and I'll send you out with one of my 20D's on Amateur day or Open Practice day.
 

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Chili said:
Pretty much anything above your Rebel will give you all you'll need. I'd go with whatever I could get the best deal on Rebel XT, XTi, 20D or 30D. If you are in no rush, remind me at Millville and I'll send you out with one of my 20D's on Amateur day or Open Practice day.
Dang ... showoff ... multiple bodies ... but then again you are a pro ...

I had the ocassion to use my D30 recently at a soccer game. Talk about an antique. My D20's response time is a thousand times faster. Things have really changed in the last 5 years.
 

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Dang ... showoff ... multiple bodies ... but then again you are a pro ...
Pro :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: It's actually a pain dealing with two bodies and likely shooting other sports I'd simply change lenses but given how bad the dust usually is at our tracks I prefer to try not to change lenses at the track, hence the two bodies. The other aspect is I always have a backup should one fail.
 

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Doug Does the newest Rebel version have the servo features and burst shoot capabilities? I see most places are pricing the new Rebel pretty close to the 20Ds. Figure if I get a kit with a lens I can give Spider the Rebel and lens. then keep the new body for me
 
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oldguy said:
Figure if I get a kit with a lens I can give Spider the Rebel and lens. then keep the new body for me

Spider must have already taken the Rebel back to school with him, eh Old Guy?

I see why you'd be thinking of an upgrade. :laugh:
 

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Spider must have already taken the Rebel back to school with him, eh Old Guy?

I see why you'd be thinking of an upgrade. :laugh:
He hasn't been home yet but finished exams today ssssooooooo :bang:
 

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Dave every model since the 300D (Original Rebel) has the ability to select AI Servo as a focusing mode in any setting.
 

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Dave-I've seen some smokin' prices on new 20D's lately. The force is strong...

AI Servo on everything since the original 300D? Hmmm... I'll still get a 20D eventually.
 

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To be perfectly honest if it was me making a choice between all the camera's on that page at Amazon I'd likely by the XT for the cheapest price. I'd use the extra cash to buy the vertical grip and a decent lens to compliment the 70-200, something like a 24-70 or even a 17-40. Or I'd shop used for a good condition 20 or 30D. That will be what I do for a mkII unless I win the lottery.
 
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I've been pretty happy with my 350D. I've had it for about a year and a half now and I'm pretty satisfied with the image quality I'm getting so far. It could be improved with some better glass, but I don't feel I'm lacking in what the Rebel can do, so far.

If you want, check out my website: www.mikeshots.com

Go to the Motorcycles section and then check out the Hangtown 2006 gallery. Those are the only shots on the site that I felt like were half-way decent. They were all shot with my 350D and my 75-300mm USMIII lens. Actually, all of the dirtbike galleries were done with the 350D. The car shots were taken with a Nikon and a lens that didn't have enough reach.
 

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My next camera will have a full frame image sensor.

I shoot a lot of wide angle shots of the buildings that I work on and the sub full frame image sensors are always causing me problems. I tried going with ultra wide angle lenses, but the multiplication factor is killing me, and I cannot go below a certain point (about 17mm) and economically justify the glass.

Sure I would like a EOS 1D Mark III, but that ain't happening. Photojojo uses a 5D and I am impressed with the durability of that unit.

A used 5D may be the best way for me to get into full frame.
 

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I tried going with ultra wide angle lenses, but the multiplication factor is killing me, and I cannot go below a certain point (about 17mm) and economically justify the glass.
Tony - Aren't you going to run into issues anyway trying to run less than pro-spec glass on a full frame sensor? Everything I've read along the way seems to point to the quality requirements at wide angle going way up when you go to full frame. It makes sense really. The image circle isn't as big with the crop factor sensors so the edge flaws get hidden.

When I was working on video conferencing cameras at USR we ran into the same lens issues when we built cameras with a higher quality 1/3" sensor and tried to use the lenses that were designed for our 1/4" sensor cameras.

I get the feeling that a lens for a full frame digital sensor has different requirements than one designed for 35mm film.

If you look at the Canon product descriptions for the $700 EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM and the $1600 EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM they sort of hint at this difference.

Maybe you can split the difference and use one of their slick tilt-shift lenses like the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L ($1100) . It's not as wide as the other two but it might accomplish what you want. That lens is so cool it makes me want to buy a Canon just so I can use it. :whoa: