And chains and brakepads too. Stan,Old Man,I'm not talking about clean. I'm talking about rusted inside.Personal opinion here-- Short of a Sawzall,pressure washers have to be the best tool ever invented for destroying motorcycles.If I had a fiver for every post where somebody's crying over snapped and corroded bolts,rusted bearings,siezed spokes and the like.Well.....They didn't get that way being rained on.I don't think they even got that way from creek crossings(they got ridden out and trail dried after that).The great majority got there being pressure washed and rolled right into the garage.Now I agree with you the skill of the operator counts for something,I've just never had the inclination to ask for a demo before handing over the asking price.