Trailridin said:Is there a website where the existing snowmobile laws are posted for County Road locations/access?
sanford said:I'm sorry to say but putting ORV's on county roads is not the answer. It may work in the UP due to less population.
KTM Mike said:DW - while I agree you are in general correct ("give an inch...."), I certainly have not seen that be the case here in Montmorency county.
I find that were your located and then to the north including the UP the people are good about the privilege for the most part, but the farther south one goes from your location the worst it will escalate! Baldwin & Irons will be a total disaster zone fo sho.
DW
Wolverine423 said:I find that were your located and then to the north including the UP the people are good about the privilege for the most part, but the farther south one goes from your location the worst it will escalate! Baldwin & Irons will be a total disaster zone fo sho.
DW
The non issue has been good in the counties that have adopted the practice ,problems are down and enforcement agencies for most part pleased.KTM Mike said:DW - while I agree you are in general correct ("give an inch...."), I certainly have not seen that be the case here in Montmorency county. We have had this ORV ordinance in place for YEARS (over 10?) and to the best of my knowledge, it is not a huge issue. Even the Montmorency County Road Commission has written letters in SUPPORT of a similar effort in Oscoda county! Local cops dont seem to have issue either. I literally ride right past ones home almost every time I ride from my house! He just smiles and waves as we go by.
This is not to say some people wont do exactly as you describe. I know of several locals that flat out abuse the priviledge actually. I am somewhat uncertain if i agree with total access, but from a legislative standpoint, I think that needs to be left up to the counties. In some areas, total county road access may work fine - in other areas i think it likely should be limited to defined routes for direct access to legal trails, services etc. only. I do see to many local cases of ORV's simply being "transportation" around the neighborhood, or to run into town. I dont realy think this is what we intend or want. Again, lets allow the counties to decide.
I do think that enforcement needs to step up - dont get me wrong, I dont want to call in the artilery on ourselves, but when I see some idiot on an unplated bike riding a wheelie down the road...damn straight he should get a ticket!
When my boys and I ride from our house, we do about 6 miles of road to get to the trail. I sure love being able to do that - not being able to would limit my riding to much. I will fight long and hard to help assure we can continue to do so. But when we do it - we stay to the extreme right (as conditions best allow) and we keep our speed down. (though we will have to work at that 20 mph thing...i would say we generally run about 30 mph when on the roads).
Valid concerns certainly, but lets allow the counties to decide! Not some muckity muck in Lansing with no clue of local circumstances. To me, this is what this legislation is all about.
2TrakR said:Speed limits with the new law are 20MPH. Hard to roost/rip at that speed. Most counties already have similar speed restrictions in effect.
sanford said:Do you think all riders obey those rules?...not a chance.
sanford said:I dont want a 12 year old boy or girl riding their ORV on the road. There is NO good argument for this.
tdunn976 said:AS for us muckity mucks in Lansing, should I take offense!? :whoa:
2TrakR said:Curious, what requirements on getting a plate do you think should be changed? I know several CR500s that were plated with relatively little effort.
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