Fooling yourselves!

[marcusgunby]

Neph not so much accident prone-just has accidents bad enought to put him out of winning the titles.So far i am right, not saying bubba cant ride a 250-just they requires more respect-look at rc-think he didnt practice like mad on one before he raced one.Its not the level of riders is so much higher(it is higher however) its the fact a 250 wont let you do what a 125 will.Thats what catches most out.

I think if bubba was willing to get a few 2nds and 3rd places he could walk off with the 250 crown-i dont think he will accept 2nd or 3rds.

As for my predictions i can root out the thread where i said reed was a real threat when he came to the states, and few believed me-now i dont hear people saying reed cant win. :aj:

 

[JPIVEY]

I dont think he will accept 2nd or 3rds.

There's so much hype about this already,I don't think RC or CR will either; Egos are going to get in the way and it's going to be fun too watch.

 

[Garyb]

Stewart is going to get hurt riding the 250, and when that happens he will start to get slower.
Within 2 years he will be midpack. :p

 

[Okiewan]

Stewart is going to get hurt riding the 250, and when that happens he will start to get slower.
Within 2 years he will be midpack. :p

I'll assume that was a troll, lol.

Reed? No doubt a great SX specialist.
Frankly, I think you need to consider both Nats and SX to determine how "great" a rider is, if you want to have a place amoung the best ever. If Reed picks-it-up outdoors.... :eek:

As it stands now, Reed has to be considered one of the best indoors, but we'll have to see how many Championships he can string together.

 

[marcusgunby]

I think with a better handling bike outdoors he(reed) could be a threat 'IF' RC and Bubba crash out.

 

[zcookie49]

Bubba will also have to deal with having others right on his ass the whole time. case in point, Kdub this past weekend with Travis.
Bubba is unchallenged in the 125's, no pressure on his back wheel. his lap times are there with the big boys, which means that next year, more than likely, there should be a cluster of riders up front with about the same speed, give or take.
The only thing I will predict for 2005 is some of the Best racing ever.

 

[nephron]

and few believed me-now i dont hear people saying reed cant win.

I'm one of those guys, and absolutely believe you now. And I already admitted to eating crow to the big Grinch. Reed is awesome. But, your second comment about him having a better handling bike for next year....I'd hate, but have to, disagree with your intention there. Reed has got the perfect style for SX, and is just absolutely one of the funnest guys to watch out there because of it, but that style doesn't seem to translate as well to MX. Oh, it certainly translates well--but not quite as good as the hard ground-poundin' style of RC, or Windham's mysteriously perfect technique (best all around 250 rider at this point).

I'm an idiot, but that's just how I see it.

 

[super rat]

Doc, I don't know what is funnier, you saying that you could ride your 500 wfo around the dilla or you saying that Kdub is the best all around 250 rider at this point. Have you seen any of the races this year? How many 250 titles has kdub ever won?
I got some extra cash that says that Kdub don't win a 250 title this year too, want some?

 

[nephron]

I meant riding right now (not including RC). Didn't mean to harm your RC sensitivities, rat. :debil:

Edit--and including MX, hence the all around thing.

 

[marcusgunby]

Neph i was talking about reeds outdoor setup was bad last year-his bike looked nervous and the back end didnt seem to want to hook up well at all.I think thats why he went to 450 for a spell.I think if reed wins the SX he will be very motivated to prove he is a good outdoor rider-you havnt seen him ride properly outdoors yet IMO. With a good bike a bit of confidance and knowing the tracks/riders alot better now he could pull of some surprises-lets not forget he finished 2nd on the world Gps 1st tiem out, he did 3rd? at the 250 nationals-this guy can do it IMO.

 

[Patman]

Marcus I remember when you and I were taking a beating over Skippy, now here we are watching him rack up the wins :thumb:

And I happen to agree with Marcus on the whole Bubba thing too. :)

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[nephron]

Hey Marcus! How many years does Reed need to set up his suspension? :whiner:

 

[Vic]

I think the the transition will be easier for Bubba than it was for RC, due to the fact that he's bigger. Plus, he can get away with more because he's so unbelievably relaxed on the bike.

 

[plysWfire]

The reality is, the bar is going to be raised. If JBS is not the fastest guy, I guarantee that it's because everyone else found a way to get faster. I just hope it's not at the expense of more injuries.

deano...

 

[marcusgunby]

Neph LOL, i think he should have sacked his tuner-maybe he had the same guy as GL??? his looks funny bad this year IMO.

 

[angry jim]

I bet the next guy that beats Stewart for a title is in high school right now waiting for Lorreta Lynns.
The next few years will be very boring races watching Stewart 45 seconds ahead of second place. Those guys better see if they can drop down to the 125 class!

 

[JPIVEY]

45 seconds my :moon:

 

[bclapham]

I bet the next guy that beats Stewart for a title is in high school right now

they dont go to school, they are home schooled- teenage prodigies are ten a penny around here. every other week we will have a 15 yr old 105lb kid turn up, ride a 450 and raise some serious eybrows the pro class.

not heard the name Alessi?? there are two of them. Milsaps and Hepler have done OK to say they are just 16.

 

[Okiewan]

not heard the name Alessi?? there are two of them. Milsaps and Hepler have done OK to say they are just 16.

No doubt! Watch out for Milsaps! Hepler looks really solid and those Alessi boys are something. Nice to know there is a crop of new talent out there.

 

[weimedog]

I don't think Bubba has anything to worry about from the Milsaps or Alessi's. I also don't think he will have any problem moving to the 250's....Some do but I don't think Bubba is one who will adapt.

Bubba has a gift in figuring out how to get the most out of what ever he is riding. He is smarter than the rest and has has the athletisizm to execute what he's figured out. Haven't seen many like him. The closest was Bob Hanna in his time before a water skiing accident put him out(skiing with his title rival).

All the 250's will do is give more for Bubba to play with. I can't wait actually...but I'm a die hard Bubba fan.

I hope those who are not Bubba fans can enjoy this phenomenom and appreciate history in progess. I didn't enjoy Bob Hanna in his time because I had a hard time with his attitude...Deja vue. I appreciate him more now. So now I can watch and enjoy Bubba with a less cluttered outlook.

My prediction? He will be another MC, RC, etc. ...If he doesn't fall into the same trap Travis did. Image over keeping his eye on the real ball...a long term dominating MX career.

 

[Antman]

I've seen plenty of pics with Bubba practicing with a 250. He has black side panels with a white 259, but there is no mistaking the pipe sticking out the left side of the bike. He's gonna kick a$$ barring any major injury. 2nd place is gonna be super exciting with RC, K-dub, Pastrana, and Reed battling. SX 2005, can't wait. :aj:

 

[Jeff Howe]

The only thing Pastrana will be known for in MX is how NOT to do things. Hey, can anybody help me out? I need a picture of David Vuillemin, Grant Langston and Travis Pastrana posing together, or photoshopped together somehow. I would like to have the image printed on canvas/cloth so it can be attached to my pit chair.

 

[Okiewan]

The only thing Pastrana will be known for in MX is how NOT to do things.

That's possible if you assume he's not coming back. We're not talking about a 35 year old (all tho he may have the body of one) with very little carrer left. If he rides like he did in his heat at Daytona... who knows?

 

[Okiewan]

And he's out... sheez.

 

[dirt bike dave]

On the webcast, they mentioned that Pastrana was planning on racing rally cars in Malaysia next weekend. Not sure if his latest injury will keep him home, but he wasn't going to be racing the Indy SX even if he was healthy.

Travis is very fortunate to have a factory SX/MX ride to play with in his spare time.