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Fork seals-$120 per side?

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Hello, I was just wondering if you guys think that $240 is a lot of money to have fork seals replaced? I asked the yamaha shop guy why it was so much..He said that its a complex job to do.....Does this sound about right? Thanks
 
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It sounds like you should do it yourself. It takes about an hour and isn't that hard. There are excellent tutoriala on line, and if it is only seals, then no special tools are actually needed.

Note: My opinion is based on inverted forks, conventional forks are easier.
 

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I think that is a little high, unless you are bringing them the whole bike and expecting them to remove the forks, too.

I would think $90+- leg would be typical if you bring them in the forks. It might be a little higher in your area if shop rates are high.

Part of the time is inspecting the parts, deburring the legs if necessary, etc...

Besides labor, any shop will charge you full retail for seals (maybe $20 per side) and they will probably recommend and put in their most expensive fork fluid (maybe $20 per leg). If they gouge you a bit more on seals and fluid, they could get to $120/leg pretty quick.
 

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Replacing seals is easy...doing an entire service of the forks properly is much more involved. $240 does seem high, but for some reason I seem to remember at least an hour and a half allocated for doing the pair.

Factor in fluid, seals, and the guides that are likely worn, too, and possible deburring of nicks in the fork tubes and you could be at $240.

I just noticed that yours is an 87 RM. I think that one might be less complicated, though.
 

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I was quoted $250 for an 01 KTM.
 
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Whaaaaaat?? I get mine replaced for 75 bucks total...and that's just dropping off the bike...it's cheaper if you just take the forks in. :) I'm tight with the owner, but it's not MUCH cheaper than their regular price. See, the farmlands of Ohio have SOME benefits. lol
 
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thats rediculas- :yikes: - exactly why shops dont have a lot of work- :coocoo:
its easy to do -
get a book -,and make a seal driver out of pvc or something-
they slide right in - its not like there pressed in -lol- just put a lil grease on them-
dont for get the new oil-hahaha- kiddn

hell i had pro circuit do mine- with a revalve- for that!-- not just new seals :|
 
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I did mine myself. Took me two days, cost me about $50. Next time I do it I expect it will take me about an hour.

Rod
 

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Average prices here in SoCal are $110 on bike for both forks, $90 off bike. This includes seals and fluid, and minor deburring of fork tubes if necessary. Obviously, any other parts needed would be additional.

$240 sounds crazy.
 

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I paid $95 + price of seals per leg last time I had them done. that was for full service on the forks, fresh fluids included.
if they are only changing the seals, $240 is expensive, but if they are doing a full service on the forks, I think its reasonable.
 
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Josh,did you call around for prices? For that price,if it was me,I would call an expert and have them set for you!Toll Free #: 877-850-5114,Brandon or Jeremy,I heard a rumor that Brandon has been doing some extra curricular work!!!MX TECH
 

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I watched one of the guys at our local shop change the seals on a new CRF450. Including buffing out several small scratches (which took at least 20 minutes), it took him less than 45 minutes to disassemble, clean, put new seals in, add fluid, and reassemble/bleed both forks.

I pay $25-30 for a set of seals (both legs) and $10 for enough fork oil to do both legs. This means that for $240 you are paying over $200 per hour for a technician to change your seals...unless the technician doesn't know what he is doing and takes several hours. Still, how many of you know mechanics that make more than $100/hour? Totally ridiculous amount of money.

I'm sorry, that is NOT reasonable for a fork service no matter how you look at it. For that kind of money - or not much more - you can send your forks away and have them revalved/resprung according to your weight/riding style as well as having them serviced.
 
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ghunter said:
This means that for $240 you are paying over $200 per hour for a technician to change your seals.
No, that isn't how it works.

In addition to the hour's wage to the mechanic you are paying for:

Rent to have a shop to work in.

Utilities so the mechanic doesn't have to work in the dark.

The administration, so the mechanic doesn't have to do all the paperwork.

Some percentage of the cost of the tools that were required to do the job.

State & Federal taxes, social security, workman's compensation, etc etc.

The "idle" time between finishing your job before he is actively working on the next customer's bike.

The shop needs to make a certain $$$ per hour to keep the doors open. I am sure that the mechanic didn't make $200 for that hour's work.

Rod
 

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Yes, yes, I do understand economics. My statement wasn't to describe where every dollar goes, but to show that WHEREVER it goes that rate is too high if you subtract the cost of materials needed to do the job.

My point is that you ARE paying for service at an hourly rate. Regardless of the what the mechanic put in his pocket the bottom line is the same:

You would be paying over $200/hour to someone for mechanical labor.

Check a Mercedes dealership, they don't charge that much...and neither do any motorcycle shops that I have heard of.