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[QUOTE="Dekester, post: 1194064, member: 74578"] Honda is betting the farm on the 4 strokes and I hope they choke on it. Honda is already crying about the possible displacement changes from 450 to 350 in the 250 2 stroke class. They said they will remove themselves from racing if that happens. F'in crybabies. :blah: Honda (corporate) tried to corner and manipulate the market and I hope they burn for it. They say that they will leave racing because they know the 450f (and 250f for that matter) have an unfair HANDICAP (yes, get it straight, it is a HANDICAP in the TRUEST sense of the word) for that class of racing and a 350f (or a 200f) would lose the dominance the 4 strokes were unfairly given on a silver platter. 4 strokes are being pushed hard because of financial reasons. The dealers want the 4 strokes because they know the 5-10 fold increase in parts dollars spent on the 4 strokes. They also know that their service department will see much more volume due to the fact that the average 4 stroke rider will not be able to service the complex 4 stroke with the many moving parts and complexities involved in the maintenance and repair. I have not seen a 2 stroke for sale at my local Yamaha/Honda dealer for over 2 years. They are not buying them because they want to sell the 4 strokes and make the goldmine on parts and service. Several of my friends noticed the same thing. I have inquired numerous times as well as some of my friends as to the lack of 2 strokes for sale. They say nobody even asks about the 2 strokes anymore. LIARS! I know this to not be true. I personally tested this dealership and know they are lying. This is propagana and lies for their financial gain and your financial loss. I feel the dealers are artificially and deliberately creating this problem for financial gain. I know for a fact this is true in my area. If you want to be manipulated and taken for your hard earned money, by all means buy a high performance 4 stroke. I feel the real popularity in 4 strokes is with people who are not experienced riders and may not have the skills, patience, or desire to ever develop those skills. A perfect example is a father and son who want to put around a few weekends a year. 2 strokes are not meant to be "putted" around. Pure and simple. So in this application, the 4 stroke is a good choice. Do they need titanium valved, high performance, and high maintenance 4 strokes? No, they do not. They would not even push the TT-R's to their limit on any consistant basis. Male ego comes into play here. My cousin has 6 CRF's for him and his family. Do ANY of them need a CRF? HELL NO! Do any of them push those bikes to their limit at all. HELL NO! I smoke him and will ALWAYS smoke him. The other popularity in 4 strokes is due to the unfair handicap of the 4 strokes. If they were equalized, more people would ride 2 strokes. Race maintenance is WAY lower on a 2 stroke than a 4 stroke. If they were balanced performance wise (like 350f vs 250T), the 2 stroke would be more dominant due to maintenance costs alone. I see people who want to ride track or race and buy 2 strokes. They then complain that they cant ride them and that they want a 4 stroke. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE SKILLS TO RIDE A 2 STROKE, YOU NEED TO RETHINK YOUR REASONS FOR RIDING. Riding a 2 stroke should be like a "rights of passage". If you can competently ride a 2 stroke, then you could think about riding a 4 stroke (on track or track racing) for whatever reason. I think that 4 strokes have a place/dominance in desert racing as well. I think if there were mass produced and reasonably priced modern 500 2 strokes (think cr500AF but more affordable), that might change too. I am sure that people are going to blindly disagree with what I am saying. Please read what I stated again with an open mind before posting. [/QUOTE]
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