Honda CRF-230

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Rigt now I ride an RT-100. It is slow, bad suspension, and I like the way four strokes sound. So I figured the CRF 230 might be the bike for me. I am about 5' 120lbs, and strong. Since it is only a 34'' seat height, I am tall enough. But why are these 4 strokes so dang heavy? 238lbs? Crimeny.
How do you think a CRF 230 with BBR stiff front and back sunpension springs and a pipe perform on a track? I already know it would do great in the woods.

What do you think?
Thanks in advance,
Michael
 

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CRF230, think heavier XR200 with electric start and CR styling. You can draw your own conclusions as to it's track-worthiness from there.
 
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The CRF230 is not my favorite of the bikes. Like you said it is very heavy for what it is, not a very strong motor, and as far as MX it doesn't stand a chance. The BBR fork and shock springs plus the pipe will help a lot. But the gearing, weight, and bike set-up just aren't there as far as MX. The motifications you would have to make to get a track ready bike out of that would be horrendous. I say you should look at some of the new 85's, maybe even one of the Kawasuki 100's.
 
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The KX 100 would be my vote. May not "sound" as good as a 4 stroke, but is a LOT more bike than the CRF230. Works good on the track and in the woods.
 
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Is there a not a 4 stroke below 400cc that can do good on both trails and track? And that is my size.
 
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All the bikes that XRpredator listed are serious bikes. I do not recommend that you purchase any of those bikes until your bigger and have more experience.
 
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I wouldn't get the 150 either. Its only a whole 3 or 4lbs lighter and I bet the 230 doesn't put out much more power any than the 150. They are play bikes. Detuned and undersuspended. Whats with the 150 w/ E-start? If you can't kick that bike over then grow some legs. I don't know why people want to spend tons of money putting after market everything on a bike thats nothing to begin with(esp. on the track). You like the sound of the 4 strokes and I think its cool too but a CRF's not going to give you that sound. More like a DR350(until higher revs). I think you should get a KX85 or RM80. A used TT-R125L would work if you get to big for it quick(and you will). The TT-R's are easy to find and cheap to buy used. Oh and get one w/o E-start if you do. If you must get a bigger bike a XR200 would be next but thats a lot of lbs compared to a RT.
 
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At only 5 foot (No offense) - You really wouldn't be very comfortable on something like a 250 CC 4stroker.

I would say to look into a kawa or suzuki 85 since they would be best in trails with powervalves, and killer at tracks as well with their killer low end. Or if you want the best of both worlds with a lot more power at the top end, look into a KX 100, RM 100 or KTM SX 105. Allthough I deffinetly suggeest sittin on a 100 before buying one to make sure you will be comfortable with the size.
 
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One More Thing, how often do the 85cc's require rebuilds? And how much do rebuilds cost? I only ride 1 to 2 times a month and I dont race or anything.
 
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Originally posted by RT100guy
One More Thing, how often do the 85cc's require rebuilds? And how much do rebuilds cost? I only ride 1 to 2 times a month and I dont race or anything.
1-2 times a month? you should barely have to rebuild an 80. Im pretty sure the average rebuild time on 80/85s are about 10-12 months, but with only 1-2 times a month, you shouldn't worry about rebuilding for a pretty long time. Not sure about the price though, hopefully somone else can help you out there. :)
 
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What do you mean by rebuild? The cost depends how much of the bike you want to rebuild.:) The top end? If so at that rate you might not have to rebuild in long time. It depends if you put around or go wide open all day. Also what condition the bikes in when you get it. A 4 stroke will need just as much service if not more than a 85. You'll get over the sound thing. Each 2 stroke sounds different. All the 4 strokes sound the same(besides a DS).
 
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Sorry, also jsut for the top end, what components do they replace? They just do the piston and rings? I really don't know, I ride alot of trails. So how mcuh does a rebuild cost?