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KX100 vs. CRF150

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frankfilm

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I want a bike that will be good to learn on. It should be light and handle well. Easy to handle power delivery would be nice. It doesn’t need to be the most powerful one out there.

I want to try the following styles.
Trails: I live in Southern California. The areas close to me are Angeles National Forest (Rowher Flats) and Gorman (desert).

Super Moto: I would ride go-cart tracks and easy dirt tracks.

MX track: I’ve never ridden on a MX track, so I’d like to try it out. I don’t intend to compete in MX.

My statistics are:
5’ 8”
165 lbs
30” inseam
Age 40
Good physical condition.
I currently ride a 96 Honda VFR750F street bike.

I’ve been to Moto Ventures for trail riding and training three times. Each time was a great learning experience and loads of fun. I rode a KLX 300 and a KDX 220. I liked them both. I spoke with the instructor. He said it’s best to get something that’s easy to handle and throw around.

These are the bikes on my list.
Kawasaki KX100 (proposed mods add 12oz flywheel weights and springs for my weight)
Honda CRF150 (proposed mods add HRC power up kit and springs for my weight)

Have any of you ridden a KX100?

What to you guys think?

What would you guys recommend?

Thanks for reading this long post.
Frank
 

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I would check out the YZF250. Got TONS of trail potential and will out perform/out class that CRF by MILES!!! Of course you could wait around and see how the Honda CRF250 does but the Yam has proven itself to be a real winner!!
Just a thought..
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Hi Woodsy,

I agree with you. I sat on a YZF250 earlier today. It is awesome, but I want to practice on something smaller for a while. I want to build my skills and confidence up more before going 250 four-stroke.

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Frank
 
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IMO the bikes you mentioned are TOO small. The CRF-150/KX-100 type bikes are ridden by 13yo's and soccer moms. You will get laughed at. If you can handle your street bike then you can handle a 250.
 
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I would get a KX100 but it will need some springs. Its awesome in the trails. Hey, I'm 13 and 5'6" and I looked at one and my mom(is 5'11") actually liked the bike because she could throw it around and control it easier. She doesn't play soccer.:) But I had to get a KDX like father like son. I would drop the CRF because it isn't only too small it doesn't have enough power to pull you around. Plus I wouldn't put a power up kit on it because it isn't worth it. The supension is dated and its detunded for play bike power. You would have to spend a lot of money to get this thing to ride like a real CRF MXer.

I would suggest a KDX or a EXC200. If you want something smaller a KX100 would work w/ some mods.
 

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Hey Frank:
You sound to me like you are destined to get a "starter" bike so here is another thought.. There are a group of guys (GROWN MEN) that ride XR100's here in my area and they have a ball on them. I also know for a fact that a LOT of the flat trac schools use the Xr100 as a "trainer" because of it's frame geo's.. Maybe what your looking for is the XR100... Nice thing about them is they are VERY easily had in decent "used" format and cheap (I just bought an 89 for $200). Play on an XR100 for a while, outgrow it (should take about a month), resell and get your money back and go get the 250.... Of course if money is NO object then by all means go get the new CRF150 or KX100, maybe you will wind up like most of us (addicts) and have one of every size :) . If $$ is an issue - Be warned - when you outgrow it (and you will) the depreciation is staggering..
Another question to ask is, what do your friends ride?
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Originally posted by Daisycutter
IMO the bikes you mentioned are TOO small. The CRF-150/KX-100 type bikes are ridden by 13yo's and soccer moms. You will get laughed at. If you can handle your street bike then you can handle a 250.
first off, thats a completely false statement. I know kids that are 15-17 down at the tracks that can rip on KX 100s, and can outperform many 125 riders on the 100s.

and also, I think that you should just go right ahead and get the 250 4-stroke. they really wouldnt be that hard to learn on, and it doesent make much sense to get something smaller just to learn on, because if you were to get a 2-stroke 100cc, it woulndt ride at all like a 250cc 4stroke.

but if you insist, a KX 100 would whoop a CRF150.
 

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Hi Woodsy,

Regarding: What do my friends ride? They ride street bikes. I'll have to find new people to ride with. The point about the KX100 having a completely different feel than a 250 four stroke is good.

My reasoning was that a KX100 was easy to throw around. I would definately buy it used.

I've ridden a KLX300 a few times. It was fine.

What do you think of a used YZF or WR.

Thanks,
Frank
 

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Hi,

Regarding: What do my friends ride? They ride street bikes. I'll have to find new people to ride with. The point about the KX100 having a completely different feel than a 250 four stroke is good.

My reasoning was that a KX100 was easy to throw around. I would definately buy it used.

I've ridden a KLX300 a few times. It was fine.

What do you think of a used YZF or WR.

Thanks,
Frank
 
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Originally posted by Daisycutter
Sorry if MY opinion is false. BTW I think yours is dumb.
You didn't state an opinion. You said that KX 100 are for 13 year olds and soccer moms, and I said that is a completely false statement because I know older kida 15-17 that can do extremely well on them and keep up and beat 125 riders on the track. And if you think my opinion is dumb, thats funny - because the only one I gave was about me thinking he could handle the 250 4-stroke just fine. Funny how you said the same thing. And don't even bother to respond if you are going to say something like "i think yours is dumb"

Anyway, if I were in your position, I would go and look for a used 250 4-stroke, a YZF in your case. If you can ride a streetbike, IMO you will have absolutely no problem getting on one of those and picking it up rather quickly. However, this is a motocross competition bike you are buying, realize that. If you are riding in trail/woods and desert, you might be better off with something like a Kawasaki KDX which you said you had ridden before. I ride a KDX 200, and I love it because it so suitable for almost any riding you want to do with it, and with a couple of suspension mods can be pretty killer on an MX track, which I plan to buy and work on this christmas.

Give it a lot of thought before you buy such a big ticket item though. Seriously, I know in my case for instance, I wouldn't want to be stuck with a 2-stroke Motocross bike in the tight and technical trails I ride in daily.
 

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My $.02:

The kx100 is a fun bike and not just for kids or soccer moms.  My wife has one and she is neither a mom nor has anything to do with soccer.  I have a ball riding the kx100.  Had Eric Gorr port it for more low end power and have a flywheel weight to add to it.  The bike is light and fast.  :thumb:   A lot of fun can be had on one.  Is it the right bike for all time riding - not for me -   but it is for Wendy at 5'4" 115 llbs.

I would not buy one new - but that's just me.
 

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frankfilm you and I are the exact same height and I agree that the KX100 is too small for you. I can't comment on the CRF150 since I've never even seen one. Since your main focus is away from the MX track other than some slight curiousity I would recommend something along the lines of a KDX 200/220, The KLX 300 or an XR250 for a starter bike.
The KX100 while I think it is a great bike would require a fair bit of setup and aftermarket parts (bars and bar risers etc) to make it comfortable for someone your size to ride in a standing position.
 

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I own a kx100 and i'm 15. what do you have to say about that daisy cutter. therefore, since i am not 13, YOUR OPINION(STATEMET) IS FALSE.

you are too big for a kx100. i'm 5'5", 5'6-7" w/boots. and i'm prolly moving up to a 125 or 250f next spring. I'd definantely say a used yz250f should be able to get them around 3000 for a good condition one. or the kdx200's are sweet bikes too. i ride my dads and it's sweet. so i'd go for one of them too.
 
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