off road riding, enduro stuff, is very hard to find the right setup, we ride in deep sugar sand , hard terrain, rocks, you name it. I feel it all depends on the rider, how fast he is, sits or stands, if a steering damper is going to be used, the riders condition, how well he adapts to different terrain, ect. I ride AA in eastern enduros, my bikeis on the stiff side but the bike is a very good handling bikes if your going fast. For braking bumps I usually will use stiffer springs to keep the front end from riding too low in its travel, and change the low speed stack to make the bike feel plush.I have an 03 kx 250 that stock is to me a great woods setup. For rocks I use softer springs and softer high speed stack, with a stiffer low speed to keep the front end high, and a steering damper