CaptainObvious

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So I’m running on the treadmill this morning, watching the TV to help the miles go by. I’m not really paying attention to the tube but something gets my attention. There is a hot chick being escorted by police – so she has done something wrong. I pay attention.

Well the story is on Pamela Rogers Turner, the Gym Teacher from Tennessee that had sex with her 13 year-old student. After I stop saying to myself “damn she’s hot” I realize that they are talking about her sentencing. She pleaded “no contest” and got 270 days of which they say she’ll serve about 200 days.

Now, like all men, I’m saying to myself “lucky kid” and “I wish I had her as a teacher”…bla bla bla. But when you stop and think about this for a moment, this woman raped a 13 year-old boy and got 270 days! If the tables were turned and it was a male teacher raping a 13 year old girl, he would have gotten 270 YEARS!

Why the double standard? Does society see this as a lesser crime? Why wasn’t there a teacher like that when I was 13? Opps….I guess I’m still thinking that. Well, she is hot.
 

bikepilot

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She didn't rape him imo. Yes, I know the laws about age of consent, statutory rape and stuff etc. But the facts are they both consented, there was no force involved that I know of. I think this plays a big factor in the court room.

Still, your probably right, if a male teacher had had an affair with a 13yo girl he'd probably get locked away for a long time. Yes its a different standard, but I'm not so sure its such a problem.
 

cnielse5

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Captian Obvious, your a sick man! but you know what I unfortunatly had the same thought!!! :yikes:

BUt then I think about the phycological impact that something like that has on a 13 year old kid. Growing up I had a neighbor kid that I went to boyscout campouts, sleep overs, and birthday parties with. About the time we turned 15 I couldn't stand to be around the kid and he really went off the deep end. Later on in life I found out that he Had been having sex with his sister in law (who I thought was cute) since he was 12! To this day his life is still a mess, he is really screwed up mental and psychologically. :ohmy:

So maybe it is a good thing I never had a teacher like this.

on a side note I do think that there is a double standard in society on this. :uh:
 

jeffd

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bikepilot said:
She didn't rape him imo. Yes, I know the laws about age of consent, statutory rape and stuff etc. But the facts are they both consented, there was no force involved that I know of. I think this plays a big factor in the court room.

Wow. Please tell me where a 13 year old CHILD (yes, CHILD) has the ability to give consent to anything???

Hell, the age of consent in Kentucky is at the very least 16 years of age.

So by your logic if a 27 yr. old had sex with a 6 yr. old and the 6 yr. old gave "consent" it would not be rape if there was no force involved??? Give me a break!

It is RAPE plain & simple....
 

Jamir

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I agree with the Captain. Where there hell where teachers like that when I was in school?
 

cnielse5

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Hey jeffd, what is your definition of consent?
this is mine:
consent

• noun permission or agreement.

• verb 1 give permission. 2 agree to do.

— ORIGIN from Latin consentire ‘agree’
 

jeffd

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cnielse5 said:
Hey jeffd, what is your definition of consent?
this is mine:
consent

• noun permission or agreement.

• verb 1 give permission. 2 agree to do.

— ORIGIN from Latin consentire ‘agree’

Not impressed...I know how to use the dictionary too. The point being that a 13 year old CHILD can not give consent. Period. End of story. It is called statutory rape. There is no place in these United Stated (Kentucky included) where a 13 year old can CONSENT to anything.

Just because she didn't tie him up, doesn't mean that she didn't use force. The mind of a 13 year old CHILD is WEAK much like your response using a cut-n-paste dictionary definition.

So if a CHILD consents to an adult's warped and lustful desires, it is somehow not rape? "Oh, sorry judge... The kid said it was OK. So no harm, right?" That is SICK.
 

Okiewan

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Come on, we all know only women can be victims, not predators... it the PC way to think.
 

jeffd

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Oh BTW - yes, she is hot...
I did a google image search and it is pretty obvious how she managed to get that boy's attention.

No matter though... As the father of twin boys aged 13, I can say that if a teacher seduced my son as she did, then I'd be in court for a much more violent crime.
 

cnielse5

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jeffd said:
Not impressed...I know how to use the dictionary too. The point being that a 13 year old CHILD can not give consent. Period. End of story. It is called statutory rape. There is no place in these United Stated (Kentucky included) where a 13 year old can CONSENT to anything.

Just because she didn't tie him up, doesn't mean that she didn't use force. The mind of a 13 year old CHILD is WEAK much like your response using a cut-n-paste dictionary definition.

So if a CHILD consents to an adult's warped and lustful desires, it is somehow not rape? "Oh, sorry judge... The kid said it was OK. So no harm, right?" That is SICK.

Oh, You mean consent as in:
Main Entry: con·sent
Function: noun
1 a : compliance in or approval of what is done or proposed by another; specifically : the voluntary agreement or acquiescence by a person of age or with requisite mental capacity who is not under duress or coercion and usually who has knowledge or understanding —see also AGE OF CONSENT, INFORMED CONSENT, RAPE, STATUTORY RAPE b : a defense claiming that the victim consented to an alleged crime (as rape)
2 : agreement as to action or opinion <shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties —U.S. Constitution article II> <a contract is formed by the consent of the parties established through offer and acceptance —Louisiana Civil Code>; specifically : voluntary agreement by a people to organize a civil society and give authority to a government —consent intransitive verb —con·sent·er noun

BTW I was just casting out bate. ;)
 

CaptainObvious

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Ya know, if the student was 16 or 17 it would still be wrong. Even though someone of that age could give consent (although not legal consent), the teacher is still a person in an authority position. It's just wrong. And the fact that she is a (hot) woman should not change the crime one bit. She is a sexual predator and should serve the same sentence that a male sexual predator would face.

The more I think about this, the more outrageous it becomes. And the more I think about that teacher...
 

Green Horn

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She is definitely hot. And you know he's the coolest kid on his block. Hell, when I was 13 I woulda been content to see a boobie...let alone be with one of my hot teachers. LOL
 

cnielse5

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seriously though, what would posses a good looking mature woman with a career to seduce a juveinille? I think this is less common of a social deviation that the more common older male teacher going for the hot young female student. Blame that on social programming of men to like only a certain type of woman.
 

jeffd

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CaptainObvious said:
The more I think about this, the more outrageous it becomes. And the more I think about that teacher...

Well, we all KNOW exactly what you are thinking about now don't we? lol :p

Just remember, you'll go blind! :laugh:
 

jeffd

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Shut it Ivan! Why don't you go shave your palms or something... lol :)
 

Thump

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For all of you wondering where the teachers were like that when you were in school.... they were doing the cool kids, not the Star Trek geek club. LOL.... Although that means that I was not one of the cool kids... :think:

Jeff you are right on man.

Equal rights are being demanded by women in this country and rightfully so. As the father to a baby girl I can tell you that I expect that she will be afforded the same rights as a man. I don't want her given special treatment , just the same. But that means it should be the same in all areas, such as punishment for a crime such as this, or something as simple as physical requirements for military, police and firefighters should be the same. But they are not. We live in a society that is PC when it is convenient.
 

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jeffd said:
Just remember, you'll go blind! :laugh:

I quit when I started wearing glasses! :ahhh:

Rape, plain and simple.

A 13 year old male is significantly less mature than a 13 year old female to make it even worse.

That being said, Okie is correct. There is a huge double standard.
 

CaptainObvious

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Thump said:
they were doing the cool kids, not the Star Trek geek club.

We weren't cool? I had my own phaser, communicator and vulcan ears.
 

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In a world where sex is sport, anything goes.
 

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