Ok the kicker one was like this, come around a corner, off camber down hill and then onto a short straight and then you were on it, hardish on the gas and clicked up on gear, so in thrid i think.... but sometimes i clicked about another gear and that was wrong thing to be doing. As for seat bouncing it no one was, the top guys were just hitting it as fast as they hit anything, same with the fastest jnr on the 125's, but it was his old mans property and he knew the track. As for the table tops i was breaking for both of them, the first one was larger, as in get more hieght, and the next one was the same length but shorter in height, i was clearing that ok, but the first one i was sort of casing it, like the back wheel no getting fully over to the down ramp.