Spoiler: Unadilla Bubba & Ricky
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Mixel said:
I only caught the end but it sounds as though RC made a clean pass on Bubba and then Bubba landed on RC off of a jump or something.
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justice29 said:
Stewart is an out of control idiot he did not show Windham much respect last race when he knocked him down. He had a solid second place but he had to try and knock RC out of it. He deserves that ride in the mule he took back to the pits. I have lost all respect for him and his way of racing, if you can call it that. When you get run down from 12 seconds back and passed it is time to settle and be happy you got a second in the first moto. That gives you a chance to win the last moto and the overall. This is the second time he has rammed into RC and I hope next time RC puts a jam to him good. This Stewpot if he keeps it up will eventually take himself out of the motocross world completely with a career ending injury. All I can say is it's grand that RC is the tough man he is and able to absorb that kind of punishment. So to Bubba I wish you all the bad luck that comes for careless and irresponsible riders.
It's time for heavy fines, at least enough to make someone seriously think twice about making an effort to ride clean..Accidents happen, but when "accidents" happen every race then somethings up....Motocross is dangerous enough and we don't need people with the bumper car crash derby racing mind set.
I have a feeling that Bubba is losing the war mentally....We've seen this kind of deal before and it's usually a sign that their successful days are coming to a close.
I have a feeling that Bubba is losing the war mentally....We've seen this kind of deal before and it's usually a sign that their successful days are coming to a close.
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K-dub! Then RC, then Reed, DV, Fonz(?)
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I wonder how many magazines or sports shows are eager to do articles or interviews with Bubba now? He has become the one moto man of motocross and a practice pit racer. I remember they gave Windham a fine in the Vuillemin incident which I thought Vuillemin deserved for blocking Windham off the track. I think Fox should make Bubba a white jersey with a red cross on the back. It seems Bubba is special around motocross at least for awhile but he is fast losing all respect for his antics.
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justice29 said:
thanks to them clowns at the AMA and OLN, i suppose you might get to see it while eating your thanksgiving leftovers! :bang:
Oh, and the 125 is offically done. Thanks AMA! :bang:
Oh part II, Although i am proud of my fellow Brit Mark Eastwood, he was past it years ago and always had trouble qualifying at the GPs, and he turns up to several nationals racing a roach CR250 and can get upto 11th overall. Doesnt say much about the depth of talent. :fft:
The best Euro's have done in recent years have been done by a pair of South African's (Albee and Langston) and a Ausi Reed? NO BRITS? :nener:
First impressions...fly into GATWICK airport and hear the continual whine from those rubber walkways...and now from bclamp-it. Must be an English thing. .. :yikes:
So did RC get hurt from that incident?? Looks like it could have been really bad. Look at RC's focus and position...he's ON the gas trying to get outa there! :ride:
Actually England is a pretty nice place...and has some awesome museums like Ducksworth out side of Cambridge...come to think of it..its like the entire place is a Museum! (Just kidding) :aj:
First impressions...fly into GATWICK airport and hear the continual whine from those rubber walkways...and now from bclamp-it. Must be an English thing. .. :yikes:
So did RC get hurt from that incident?? Looks like it could have been really bad. Look at RC's focus and position...he's ON the gas trying to get outa there! :ride:
Actually England is a pretty nice place...and has some awesome museums like Ducksworth out side of Cambridge...come to think of it..its like the entire place is a Museum! (Just kidding) :aj:
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Tony,
I was at Unadilla and saw the whole thing.
Let me just say that by the amount of booing big Bubba recieved from the Unadilla crowd after the incident that many thought it was a deliberate takeout maneuver in retaliation for his being fairly passed by RC.
What was particularly rattling to Bubs seems to be the fact that RC had fallen early in the moto while leading, and was able to come from behind and pass him. With his god-like self image ( and over-inflated ego), he thinks nobody on earth should be able to ever pass him.
Bubba made no fans at Unadilla today, and left a poor image for Kawasaki.
I was at Unadilla and saw the whole thing.
Let me just say that by the amount of booing big Bubba recieved from the Unadilla crowd after the incident that many thought it was a deliberate takeout maneuver in retaliation for his being fairly passed by RC.
What was particularly rattling to Bubs seems to be the fact that RC had fallen early in the moto while leading, and was able to come from behind and pass him. With his god-like self image ( and over-inflated ego), he thinks nobody on earth should be able to ever pass him.
Bubba made no fans at Unadilla today, and left a poor image for Kawasaki.
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cant stand bubba, this would be a perfect time to do some smacktalking but not so soon after rc took the same calculated risk. only rc came out on the favorable side of the odds. if bubba would have landed on the ground, took back the lead and won...............every jmack fan and his brother would be here claiming it was the move of the year and beginning a new era
This pix I saw of it and the way it sounds doesnt seem like a "deliberate take out", but just careless riding and aggressiveness.
I have to agree that he probably thinks that he shouldnt be being passed, and when it happens, it totally rides balls out to get back and in doing so, makes bad decisions.
...He probably knew RC crashed earlier and was thinking he was gonna win moto1 while at 13 laps in, then RC comes from what 12-18 seconds back and passed him, he probably wigged out and did what he did...
By no means am I condoning his actions, and we all will want to see and hear what happens in the future.
RC is tough as nails, unbelievable...
I tell you what, none of us here would have predicted that in this years outdoors Bubbas fan basis would slowly start eroding. You have to think that some fans may be perceiving him as a quitter, excuse maker, and careless racer with perceived take out moves...... just a thought.
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BTW, to whoever viewed the race today, how did the yellow/black YZs look today?
I have to agree that he probably thinks that he shouldnt be being passed, and when it happens, it totally rides balls out to get back and in doing so, makes bad decisions.
...He probably knew RC crashed earlier and was thinking he was gonna win moto1 while at 13 laps in, then RC comes from what 12-18 seconds back and passed him, he probably wigged out and did what he did...
By no means am I condoning his actions, and we all will want to see and hear what happens in the future.
RC is tough as nails, unbelievable...
I tell you what, none of us here would have predicted that in this years outdoors Bubbas fan basis would slowly start eroding. You have to think that some fans may be perceiving him as a quitter, excuse maker, and careless racer with perceived take out moves...... just a thought.
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BTW, to whoever viewed the race today, how did the yellow/black YZs look today?
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A guy landing on another guy, IMO, is no intentional take-out move. Sounded like a racing incident. Granted, I didn't see it. Before we write-off JBS as a reckless egomaniac, lets at least take a look at the replay. :coocoo:
Hats off to the G.O.A.T.. The guy is an altered beast. :boss:
Hats off to the G.O.A.T.. The guy is an altered beast. :boss:
I'd have to see it, but it doesn't sound intentional to me. BUT, it is clear that Bubba can't deal with the reality of not being the man to beat now that he is running with the big boys. As was stated, he should have rode smart and got second, maybe even showed up for the next moto! If he does not get his head together he is going to end up being a could've been quick. I just hope he doesn't hurt anyone else in the process.
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