- May 5, 2000
Anyone know when or if it will be broadcast on TV?
DieselTech said:If anyone is willing to tape this (or burn to DVD) I'm willing to pay for it. I don't get CBS (I have Time Warner Cable!), so I'm SOL. I can't believe I pay for cable and can't watch CBS Sports..........
IndyYZ85 said:Perhaps you shouldn't discuss Copyright infringement on an open web forum?
DieselTech said:Copyright infringement? I was referring to paying for the BLANK tape or DVD media - there's no law against that. If someone records the US Open on the media (that I paid for) and then gives it to me (even if I pay to have it shipped), that's not copyright infringement. That's a favor. You've never taped a show and then let someone else watch it???
It's not illegal for someone to record a publicly-broadcast video on the media of their choice. It's not illegal for me to pay someone else for a blank VHS or DVD, that they then record said video onto. It's not illegal for me to pay to have it shipped to my house, or Timbuktu, for that matter. Where have I infringed on the copyright laws?
It is however, illegal to use the Honda and Yamaha logos (in your avatar) without the written consent of those two corporations (they are Registered Trademarks).......but I suspect you don't see that as being a problem, right? You DO have written consent, don't you? If not, then delete your avatar.....or just mind your own business.
I'm not trying to be rude, but don't be a hypocrite. Thanks. I just want to see the show, and it pisses me off that I pay for cable tv, and don't get that channel (TWC doesn't have CBS Sports in the line up). Maybe someone could help me out, and why should it be at their expense? I'm offering to cover the expense. I'm not offering to PAY someone to tape it.
http://www.publaw.com/fairusetrade.html said:The Lanham Act permits a non-owner of a registered trademark to make "fair use" or "nominative use" of a trademark under certain circumstances without obtaining permission from the mark's owner. The fair use and nominative use defenses are to help ensure that trademark owners do not prohibit the use of their marks when they are used for the purpose of description or identification. Fair use or nominative use may be recognized in those instances where a reader of a given work is clearly able to understand that the use of the trademark does not suggest sponsorship or association with the trademark owner's product or services and therefore is not being used in a manner to confuse the reader.
Generally, the use by an author of a trademark in a fictional work to describe or identify particular goods or services, such as "driving in my Ford", "eating a Hershey bar", "playing with my Beanie Baby" will not be considered an infringement as long as the use does not confuse the reader with respect to who actually owns the trademark. Trademark law also permits an author of a non-fiction work to include content that is favorable and/or critical of a trademark owner's products or services. In this type of work the author should only use the trademark to describe or identify the trademark owner's product or service and should be careful not to confuse the reader as to the actual provider of the trademark owner's products or services.
Someone said:If they don't want you using their logos in any way, you can be sued. Wrong or right, hurting their business or not, that doesn't really matter. Even if they didn't win in court, you would still lose.
I am not saying that it would happen... but I don't think there's anything to worry about sharing a recording with someone either. That same law could apply to recording a show on your DVR or tape, then bringing people over to watch it, or bringing your DVR or tape over to someone else's house. It all depends on how bad they want to hurt you. They make the rules like this so they can do what they want.
All of this is IMO of course.
IndyYZ85 said:Sorry dude, you're wrong.
If you notice at the end of those broadcasts, you will see a notice or hear the talking heads make a statement that the broadcast is not to be reproduced.
Similar to buying a CD or DVD and making a copy for your friend, it is copyright infringement.
No, I don't have specific permission to use the Yamaha or Honda logo in my avatar, but I am also not hurting those manufactures by using the logos.
By recording and distributing a "public" broadcast of a race, you are hurting the producers of that product. You may not see it that way, but I would bet that they do.
I'd love to get Rich's opinion on this..
DieselTech said:Yeah, wish I could've seen all that....
As far as Reedy goes, he probably pushed too hard trying to win the $250k. I'm not surprised at all that RV did as well as he did, even on a 250f. It is, after all, 90% rider and 10% bike, and that kid can ride! I really can't wait to see him move up to the 450 and challenge Stewart - and I'm betting Stewart will have his hands full.
2 strokes rock.......four stroke bikes secretly dream of losing 2 strokes and becoming a smoker.......