Whats with the new kawis?

Except for in California, there are no EPA laws banning or restricting the emissions of "closed corse" vehicles. The AMA and their silly "double the cc" limit (that Honda was the first to exploit) have almost killed the 2 stroke. Looks like the AMA is finally pulling their head out of their collective arses and are seeing the value in letting the two strokes race in the ameture classes. If Yamaha, Suszuki and KTM start selling a bunch of two strokes in 2008, how long can the other manufacturers continue not selling them?

stumanarama said:

actually diesels are quite efficient, people just see colored smoke and automatically assume its the devil :p

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Yup, we should embrace cancer causing particulate matter :bang:

actually makyz, yamaha was the first to make a competitive four stroke with the 1998 yz400f, honda didnt produce their 450f until 2002 i believe.

CRazy250 said:

i have a feeling the 2stroke bikes will be gone for a few years, then they will bring them back.

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Pssssh... keep on wishin' brudda... but it ain't gonna happen anytime soon. At least not for US sales.

So glad I scored a kick-butt '96 KX 500 just a lil bit ago for only $1250.00

The thrill-per-dollar ratio is OFF THE CHARTS!

i think its high time i pick up one of those half liter beasts, whats the latest year honda or kawi made them?

It'll be interesting with the new AMA Amateur classes this year.... where the two main big bike classes have changed from 125 & 250 to 250cc & Open.

Before, you could only ride a 125/250F in the one class, and a 250/450F in the other... no bike was legal for both. Plus the 4-strokes had "handicapping" allowing bigger displacements in the same class. But for 2008, you now can ride a 250cc 2-stroke or a 250F in BOTH classes.... and the 250cc 2-stroke packs more HP than the 250F.... and some people seem to find the 2-stroke maintenance easier/less expensive when things go wrong.... so..... well, I guess we'll just wait and see what happens at the Amateur level. I think a few more dusty 250cc 2-strokes are gonna roll off the showroom floor this season...... but I guess they won't be green or red.... so how long will that really last? And will the pro classes eventually follow suit?

I bought my 2001 yz250 2-stroke for 700 bucks. Seems like the prices are going down.

Two strokes are soon to be dead for us.

In the boating industry Evenrude is making 2 strokes with zero scheduled service required for three years, no break in period and less emissions than competitive HP rated 4 strokes, go figure...

Kawasaki is selling the 2008 KX250 (two-stroke) in countried besides USA and Canada. It is a 2007 spec model. They also still have the KX125 in the other countries as well.