Yeah, there is a LOT more speed required to maintain attitude around the upper part pf a berm, (I assume we're talking about a good sized bowl turn) once you get the hang of it, it can be a great line, and you can make clean passes, but you have to accelerate around the top instead of bouncing off of it. Try going in and feathering the clutch to maintain momentum before you try to accelerate, soon you are able to carry more and more speed. And practicing is fun after all, right? :thumb:zharra said:ya no how ya said keep low on the burm ,i see alot of people on the top??? i think i gotta get my speed up into it a bit more, my front digs in and of i go ,eatn dirt,i find it easier on a flat turn than a burm, gotta keep practicing :flame: