Best chain???

[Jaybird]

On a ring chain the links are pre-greased. The master link is not. You may be able to stuff some grease in the hole before putting the chain together at the master. I'm betting the only folks who have experienced this "weekest link" thing are those who choose not to do any lubricating after install and didn't grease the bushings at the master. It makes sense that it would be the one to go first.

400F Man, you need to pick a chain with good integrity since you are on a strong thumper and the DID is a good pick.

It does amaze me how many folks concern themselves with so many other aspects of tuning and will spend good money on some mod that will boost their HP only slightly at best, yet chose to not concern themselves too much about proper chain maint. No matter what mod you include on your engine, it all comes down to the fact that the chain is what puts the power to the wheel.

 

[400F MAN]

Thanks jaybird for getting back to me so quickly. I was wondering what type of side winder chain you have, o-ring or not?? I'm going with sprocket specialists for my sprockets,steel. I know alot of people that spend big bucks on their motor,plastics,ect. and don't even look at their chain and sprockets. I know what you mean. I was interested in how things are going with your chain lubricant? Things still looking good to begin for the new year?

 

[Jim Crenca]

Moly chain lube is available from McMaster Carr Supply (732) 329-3200

* Dri Slide 100,000 psi loads part # 1163k12 ; $5.17 for 5 oz. aersol
* Moly Dry Film Lub. 500,000 psi loads part # 1436k51 ; $6.26 for 11 oa. aersol (I like this one best)

Jaybird, I'd be interested in your opinions on the above; I still use Honda chain lube with the Dry Film for better lubricant penetration.

 

[Jaybird]

400Fman,
I am using the stainless non-ring chain. The rollers and sideplates are all that is stainless, the pins and bushings are chrome moly. It has an ultimate strength of 14,000lbs. The chain is nearly a year old now and I have adjusted it twice. The first adjustment came after many rides. I have not used a better chain to date.
Testin of my lube has been going on now for a few months and it does look like we will have it ready for market after Jan1. There are still a couple of issues we are working on such as the delivery system but it won't be long.

Jim,
If I were you I would probably steer away from those moly lubes you see on McMaster Carr...especially if you are running a ring-chain. Some of those lubes will have carriers that will attack an o-ring. I'm not too familiar with the last product you mentioned, but I have had much experience with the Dry-Slide product. It is a good moly lube but you will find it stays alot wetter than most "Dry-film" type moly lubes. I would stick with the Honda stuff if I were you, as it is specific in design.
As I was explaining to 400fman, I have been developing a dry-film type lube specifically for the off-road crowd. Hopefully by the end of Dec. we will be ready to submit a press release to Okie and we plan on supplying some members with test lube. We will have two formulations available, one for non-ring as well as ring chains.

 

[400F MAN]

Good luck! I hope things work out for you. Are you using side winder sprockets too?

 

[Jaybird]

Yep, thier regular aluminum sprockets. They look fine.

 

[Bud Beunier]

I have had a Regina x-ring chain on my bike for the last year and have not had to adjust it a single time. The spockets have moderate wear, but I ride or race every weekend and ride cross country mostly in sand and mud. it was one of the best additions I have ever added to bike and is almost completely care free. For those people that are complaining about Regina chains that are OEM, you need to try a good Regina chain. I feel that if you ride in mud or sand you need a sealed chain. If you are riding a bike smaller than a 250 two stroke, you should use an x-ring chain becuase they have considerably less friction than the o-rings.

 

[Jaybird]

Bud,
You didn't have to adjust your chain, yet the sprockets show moderate wear?

:think .......

you should use an x-ring chain becuase they have considerably less friction than the o-rings

is that why the x-ring rep will tell you to warm it up first? How did you arrive at the thought that x-ring creates less friction than o-ring?

 

[Bud Beunier]

Take a Regina x-ring and compare it to a D.I.D. o-ring, or compare any x-ring with any o-ring with an o-ring and you will find that the o-rings are much stiffer. I bought a D.I.D. o-ring chain once and had to return it becuase it was so stiff that I could hold it straight out without it drooping at all, it was stiff as a board. The reason that my sprockets were worn out is because I ride in mud and sand all the time. Iused to use non-sealed chains and I would go through them in less than six months. I have used D.I.D. NZ chains, RK non-sealed chains, and non of them have lasted half of long as the X-ring chain I put on my bike. Also, What do you mean by warming it up first?

 

[400F MAN]

2nd choice

Out of all the chains out there that chain from Regina and the side winder chains tied for 2nd place on the # of recommendations I've gotten. That is now with your input too.thanks:)

 

[Jaybird]

All good chains will have solid rollers and bushings,

 

[KawiRider]

I ride a YZ 125. Would a O-Ring Chain be ok for my bike? Or should I buy a non-sealed chain. I ride hare scrambles and ride in South Jersey.
-Thanks

 

[Bud Beunier]

If you ride in mud or sand very often you should run an x-ring chain. you have to be careful with o-ring chains, most of them are too stiff for a 125.

 

[KawiRider]

Which one do you suggest? How much would that be?
-Thanks

 

[Bud Beunier]

For the last year I have been using a Regina x-ring and have been having very good luck with it. I think they cost a little over a hundred dollars. Most o-ring chains are also very high quality and would save you a little bit of money over an x-ring. You can check out Regina's selection of chains at: www.regina.it/moto

 

[PsychoCR500]

D.I.D are very good

I am a roadracer as well as a moto head and the best thing going is the DID ERV-2 which is a 520 X-ring chain that most factory superbike teams use. I have been using the DID VM 520 X-ring on my CR500's with great results. The chain is too heavy if your ONLY going to Moto X but if you do a little of everything and have at least a 250cc bike you'll love it. I use Mobil 1 Synthetic Spray Lubricant on them after I wash the bike and that gives the chain an unbelievable low rolling resistance. The DID chains are not cheap but they will last forever if they are maintained.:D