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Message: [QUOTE="d.u.g., post: 612576, member: 42459"] Chili, I think the "poorer quality" machine thing is incorrect and a myth. Like all dirt bikes,they require TLC.I've had great luck with my 03 250,and so have several of my friends,both 125's and 250's.Mine is used for a little moto,and a lot off off-road,and is run pretty hard,but pampered with prevenative maintenance.All the jap bikes come with junk bars,chains,sprockets.KTM'S are very niceley equipped,but are more expensive.So flip a coin. I have seen all four break down with expensive failures,yes,even Yamahas and Hondas.It seems that guys that really take care of their machines have less break downs. Guess what?I also know a lot of riders who buy nothing but RM's,they are brand loyal just like there are brand loyal riders for all brands.This is my 3rd Suzuki,not in a row but I had good luck with all of them.Doug [/QUOTE]