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Message: [QUOTE="D Lafleur, post: 1225676, member: 27020"] Systems designed to operate with a repeater are rarely more effective mobile to mobile, unless the two mobiles are within 1/8 mile of each other, or the mobiles are outside the repeater's coverage area. VHF radios require licensing for the area of operation. The frequency that you are suggesting is currently licensed to 3852 users in the Continental USA. All of the FRS specs are inflated. Remember this one key, altitude = range. More range will usually help, unless you are in a radio congested area, i.e. outskirts of a large metro area. [/QUOTE]