Well, the forks are the Mazzos or Marcozzi or whatever they're called. We couldn't get the seals out, so we put them back together and have decided to bring them to the shop. It seems to me that you might need some sort of seal remover because slapping the tubes apart didn't pull the seal out. There also seemed to be some sort of piece of foil type material under the seal.... it was sticking out a little. It looked to me like the last guy didn't remove this when he was installing the seal, what it's from, I don't know, but I am sure it isn't supposed to be there. We will see what the shop says.