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Message: [QUOTE="cweingartz, post: 219776, member: 18739"] Or you could do what my friends dad did to him and buy him a brand new snowmobile for christmas. Then on chrismas morning wrap up the payment book and give it to him. Hell be excited and pissed at the same time when he finds out that he has to pay it off. I kind of think this is a good idea. He will surely take better care of it. BTW I guess I am kind of jeleous because I had to wait until I was 16 and could aford a bike. But my friend got the sled when he was 10!! [/QUOTE]