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Message: [QUOTE="yz250-effer, post: 863095, member: 20448"] Good question - I hit the front/top of my knee real ( and I mean really ) hard and instead of breaking the top of the tib, I broke the condials off the femur and severed the acl and most of the patellar. But that explains the extra scar tissue which keeps me from having the reconstruction ( so far, knock on wood) I know a a couple of people with torn ACL's and I have very little pain, discomfort, compared to them and never experience any swelling or fluid build up. ( so far, knock on wood ) [/QUOTE]