Since apb mentioned the Husky's and you live in Seattle, you should check out Tasky's Metric Cycle in Everett, WA. They even have a demo day (not sure when) where you can ride a bunch of different Huskies. I have an '07 TE 450. My first modern 4 stroke. Its also the first 'dirt bike' I've been able to legitimately plate. The TE 250 would fit the bill for a smaller dual sport. Its not going to be real comfortable on the road with the stock gearing though. Having ridden in several different states this past year, I can say having a plated bike solves alot of problems and opens up a lot more riding areas. These bikes are designed for long lasting use with easy maintenance. Absolutely the easiest bike I've ever seen to maintain. 20 minute valve check. Lots of the same components as KTM, hydraulic clutch, e start, brembo brakes, blah blah blah. They are a tad heavier but I believe thats cause they are somewhat overbuilt. Little example would be they hold about a 1/2 quart more oil than most other manufacturers. That can't be bad. Anyway, check at Tasky's if your'e even slightly considering a real dirt bike that is dual sported. Obviously the new KTM exc 450,525 would have to be considered if you were looking at that size motor. Biggest difference in the KTM and Husky motors is long stroke KTM and short stroke Husky. Short stroke revs quicker, less gyro effect when turning, Long stroke is slower revving but more torque. KTM has wide ratio 6 speed gearing while the Husky has a close ratio 6 speed. I have 30 years offroad and can't believe the power the 450 has. But a lot of guys with that TE 250 say it rips too. So if its a 250 4t, I say husky, if larger bore, you have more choices. Either way, if your in the buying market, thats a good place to be. :laugh: