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Message: [QUOTE="HajiWasAPunk, post: 1128211, member: 62723"] Sorry, I meant to say, "biggest" difference is in the slower riders. It's still a difference and if there's even a fraction of a second you know the pros will take it, especially in the take off. You really see a noticeable difference in crashes or severity of crashes due to 4 strokes? I can only go on my experience but I didn't crash any more (or less :laugh: ) when I switched? I think with either bike you have to use good judgement about what you're attempting. [/QUOTE]