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Message: [QUOTE="wardy, post: 1132426, member: 16710"] Exactly pred, and that is why it is insane not to offer more options and more choices. a 144 will not be heads up competition with any 250f, but heck a 200 which ktm makes today would be fine? a 300 that ktm makes would be pretty close to a 450? not sure on that one. but this whole deal isn't to force companies to do anything, only to make what we have today fair. many of us think that since we are one of the biggest, that they will build it, dragging and kicking all the way to the bank. what is better less off road riders on more expensive machinery, or more on all types of macnines? LOL but you know what opinions are like ! wardy [/QUOTE]