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Message: [QUOTE="tnrider, post: 787538, member: 43074"] I would not call you an idiot (yet) - perhaps youthfull ignorance is more appropriate - hint, you are not immortal and what you do at 25 will come back to haunt you at 40... I suggest you go see an orthopedic doc. Shoulders are very complicated joints and if you do not treat it properly - you WILL be screwed in the long run -- and that's for life. If you weakened the rotator cuff and continue to mess with that thing, you will tear it eventually and it will require surgery and you do not want that. They cut through muscles in my shoulder 3-months ago to install a rod for a broken humerous - while the bone is healed, my shoulder has not yet recoverd from the surgery damage - as in can't lift more than 130degrees yet and no strength! With injuries like this, rest may not be the answer. You may need physical therapy to strengthen the damaged muscles and only a doctor & physical therapist can make that determination. [/QUOTE]