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Message: [QUOTE="Patman, post: 1199684, member: 16962"] I think what you might be running in to is the typical response to the Internet tough guy. It happens a couple times a year on DRN, which is a dirt bike site! My point to you is that all the trainning in the world won't get a person ready mentally for seeing their own blood in their eyes, a mouse under your eye that closes it or just the feeling of being pummeled. Hey if you are one of the people that actually thrives in that type of situation and not just endures it good for you, but chances are your like the rest of us and prefer not to feel the pain even you you come out "the winner". [/QUOTE]