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Message: [QUOTE="placelast, post: 251429, member: 22683"] Don't go nor give business to Krapparal, unless you want to try on the sizes for ordering it cheaper elsewhere. I was recently in there to buy a product, showed them [U]their[/U] internet special price. "Nope, we can't do that, but you can pay full retail." Phoey. I called the mail order side, they said I could pay full retail in the store, then walk around to the will call & pick it up. Phoey II. Then I called the mail order back from home, which they said "it's under $30, so shipping would be another $10" negating any savings. Phoey from now and forevermore. I happened to be near Burt's last weekend, stopped in and [I]they[/I] had it for the special price that Krapparal wouldn't/couldn't. Bought it no fuss. Since you mentioned San Diego, and the places above would be quite a drive, try Golden West Cycle, 3755 Avocado Blvd., La Mesa, CA, 800-383-6776. I haven't been there, but they do advertise in the rags. [/QUOTE]