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Message: [QUOTE="CaptainObvious, post: 528382, member: 17060"] You need to be in a position that will allow (1) maximum traction into the apex of the turn and (2) maximum acceleration out of the turn. This isn’t one position during the turn and it varies depending on many factors such as type of turn (bermed, flat, up/down hill), condition of the soil (hard pack, mud, sand) and amount of braking. For example, if breaking hard into a flat, hard packed turn I would want to be close to the center of the seat (between 1/3 and 1/2 use) with a lot of weight on the outside peg. I’m also sitting at the highest point of the seat (the top edge). As I hit the apex I’m starting to stand the bike up with a lot of throttle so in order to keep the front tire down (I’m still turning) I’ll slip up closer to the tank. When the bike is upright I’ll move more towards the center of the seat. If the all of the above were the same, except the turn has a berm, I would want to be closer to the tank (between 1/4 and 1/3 use of the seat). The difference? The rear tire will want to slide out on the flat turn so I add some weight to the rear (remember we are breaking) by staying back on the seat. In the bermed example I can move forward because the berm acts as a rail for the rear tire. Moving forward allows me to break harder and accelerate sooner. So the answer to your question is it depends on the turn. [/QUOTE]