body position?!?!?

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hrc125rider

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• Aug 23, 2003

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what should my body postion be as i am going into the corners b/c i have a bad habbit if i lean the bike overf i wont go with bike.i will sit up top on the seat? aslo how should i break this horrible habbit?!?!?!?!?!

 

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First off some questions?
Is this a bermed or flat corner?
Do you have the core riding skills down? If not learn them.
If you do, slow down and analyze what you are doing in the corner. Practice the techniques from the core riding skills.
Sitting on top of the seat is used when you have less grip like in a flat corner.
We need more info. Help us to help you.

 

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usaully its a berm.when i ride my dads bike i dont have a problem b/c he has a gripper seat.but i do not have a gripper seat.and yes i have most of the core riding skills down

 

CaptainObvious

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Try pushing the the inside bar (low grip) down into the turn. If you look at pictures of the pros you'll notice that the inside arm is straighter than the outside arm.

Pushing the inside bar will cause you to get the outside arm bent, with the elbow high. This is the proper arm position.

Two other things: (1) weight the outside peg and (2) look through the corner.

Inside foot out, foot in - your call. I notice that lately I've been keeping my foot out, bringing it in right before I accelerate at the apex. Your milage may vary.

If you work on these things, in the order that I mentioned them,

 

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You should be standing (butt back, head forward...watch the pros) into the corner. In a flowing motion sit down (right behind the tank), leg forward and throttle. Once again slow-mo analyze what the fast guys do. This whole smooth transition thing takes a lot of practice. Start slow and concentrate to get the motion down before trying it fast. :thumb:

 

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thanks for all of the help!i tried it today and it really improved my riding skills and i ride a heck of alot faster!

 

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• Aug 26, 2003

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This relates to my mud riding post too so reading this brings up two questions:
1) to RV6, when you say to push the inside grip down into turn, does that mean push/lean the front into the turn which would seem intuitive to me, or does that mean the countersteering thing where you want to go left so you push the left forward and the steering actually goes to the right? Either way extends my inner arm so I'm unclear.

2)"sit on the tank" - ok here I'm still really confused because although I figure this to be proper, I'm been told that too far forward looses too much grip on the rear and I should try to center myself not so far forward. Currently, I can't see any more seat in front of my crotch when I sit "atop the tank". I literally hit the gas cap (and sometimes that hurts if you know what I mean!!) Thanks..

 

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• Aug 26, 2003

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Wannayz, Berms don't require any (or very little) countersteering because the bike is following the terrain. By pushing the bar down you are increasing the angle of the bike in the berm. It is this angle that allows you to track inside of the berm (think about that, if you didn't lean it over you'd just go over the berm). The faster you go, the more angle you'll need.

"Sit on the tank" - depends. Moto Squid gave the correct tech, but not all terns are the same. To put it simple, sit where to have to to obtain the traction or slip that you need for that turn.

 

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• Aug 26, 2003

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ya, what RV6 said, it totally depends on the type of corner. For ones with fast ruts I like to sit back pretty far...tight corners further forward. It depends on the soil you're on too. If you ride a sand track in the same riding position in corners as dirt it won't work too well. Practice sitting forward then try again sitting a bit further back and see what works best.

Pushing the bike over is way easier than you think. Just push the inside grip closer to the ground...the bike should lean over. The pic I attached is in a flat but banked corner. See the difference between my inside and outside arm. I'm sitting on the right edge and also pushing in on the right radiator shroud with my knee to help keep the bike leaned. I don't have great form but it's not too bad for a squid :confused:

 

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umm..oops...the pic is #2 right below in my sig