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Message: [QUOTE="High Lord Gomer, post: 1149577, member: 16469"] Ol89'r has already corrected most of the inaccuracies posted about getting sideways. As I mentioned before, I trust ANYTHING he says. About gripping the shrouds with your knees/legs when braking to get faster... That works for doing stoppies (nose wheelies), but not for real braking. For maximum braking you should be as far back on the bike as possible. When you are, your knees are nowhere near the shrouds. One of the first things Ike DeJager teaches in his classes is properly moving around on the bike. For maximum acceleration you move as far forward as possible as you beging to accelerate. For maximum braking, you move as far back as possible as you transition from accelerating to braking. Gary Semics offers many detailed videos. [url]http://www.gsmxs.com/[/url] I haven't seen any of them, but Ike used to teach for Gary and I have always been impressed with him. [/QUOTE]