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Message: [QUOTE="YZ165, post: 1071505, member: 53742"] Bubba should have read this.... [url]http://www.dirtrider.net/forums3/showthread.php?t=130611&highlight=kxf450[/url] Weather it's a 2T, or 4T, stopping the back wheel that fast, with your nose already pointed down, is not good. Especialy when landing in soft sand. I think the speed of the back wheel at the time of the seisure has alot more to do with it than the diffrence between the rotating masses of the engines. Don't get me wrong, being a 4T didn't help, but that's not why he went over the bars. [/QUOTE]