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Message: [QUOTE="ToddHawaii, post: 210763, member: 17862"] Good info Tenn Thump and KDX. Michigan, I am sorry that you are not enjoying this thread as much as Rich is. I'm a little concerned why you feel it necessary to put down people who are concerned about their health by calling them Morons. Rich has a good approach. When I got overly excited about another topic, with which I had limited knowledge, Rich pulled out his experience and put me to the test. I listened, and learned. But this is what I do...with EXPERIENCE. I don't mind the questioning and the chiding, but maybe you should talk to my 250lb client who has lost over 40lbs of fat in just three months. Ask her how much her self respect is worth? And while you are at it, don't forget to call her a moron.:confused: Good Day!:) TrailTramp [/QUOTE]