Changes to 2009 AMA Pro Motocross Series

Chili

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These two press releases came out today from MXSports who now run AMA Pro Motocross.

 

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Read on another press release the reason for making #1 plate holders run the #1, was to allow the average fan to identify the riders. Could be wrong but doesn't the whole open side plates thing contradict that?
 

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I dont think you'll see teams go away from numbers on the side plates completely, more likely they end up with little numbers like in Europe. Heck half the bikes side plates barely hold decent size numbers anymore anyway.
 

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Can a rider run a 250 two stroke in the 250 class? That would be returning to the traditions of the sport.
 

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I'm more interested in seeing if they return to Qualifying RACES instead of timed qualifying.
 

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dirt bike dave said:
Can a rider run a 250 two stroke in the 250 class? That would be returning to the traditions of the sport.
They finally fixed the amateur ranks, without a big deal. So why not?
Chili said:
I'm more interested in seeing if they return to Qualifying RACES instead of timed qualifying.
We miss out on some races, but I would be surprised if the factories are complaining.
 

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I'm not really sure I like the idea of them moving to a single day, race on Saturday program.

Seems this is going to ruin the amateur program I had grown to love at Redbud every year.

I guess time will tell how it's all going to play out. I'd really love to hear what the thinking is on that one though.
 

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You have got to be kidding. Now this opens up, "lets go race on the pro track, the way they left it". Back in the day, we raced on Saturday, on their track(mostly), They showed up Sunday and threw down. The following weekend, then we got to ride their ruts, it was great! And they are finally giving the premier class what it has always deserved, a well prepped track to race on. 1 day of their non-sense is enough, it may have worked out better for J-law.
 

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whenfoxforks-ruled said:
You have got to be kidding. Now this opens up, "lets go race on the pro track, the way they left it".

I agree with that, I see most Amateur days moving to Sunday now. It's a big deal in golf circles, everybody wants to play the course in the conditions the Pro's played it on the last round.

Will be interesting to see what happens at Millville though as a big part of the experience for us was open practice on Thursday where you could ride all day for a very reasonable practice fee and then Am day was on Friday. I'll be disappointed if they kill open practice day as a result of the schedule change.
 

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Most of the people I know won't be willing to stick around for Amateur days on Sunday.. They'll want to get home and enjoy a day off from the BS.

Just seems to me that this will kill amateur days for all but the most serious riders.

Usually Redbud has several hundred riders for the amateur races, I see that number dropping off significantly.
 

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Well I'm not sure it will really have an adverse affect on the amateur numbers. In a sense just as many will be pumped to ride after watching the pros on Saturday.... Of course it might affect the number of fans standing around watching the amateurs but that is a given.

I can see why the AMA is doing the Saturday thing, as more fans will be able to attend the events live. As it is I can recall many years where several of the regulars did not attend Broome-Tioga because of some Sunday complications. And the rush home on Sunday (which can be several hours drive) left you exhausted for work on Monday......

I think this enables families to travel from greater distances to attend the events. The traditionalist in me does not like the idea, but I can understand why it will bode well for the sport...

As far as the number plates on the side being gone that is just stupid.......it is tough enough to ID these guys with 40 of them out there, with just a front plate it will be impossible, especially on TV.....
 

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its just another way to add to the total number of people there. they know amatuer races add huge to the bottom line. for the people who want to participate not watch.

this isn't new, just different. they now tie a rider up from thursday til sunday. used to be pros could do local pro races and such, specially the lower top 40 guys, since they never made enough money. this eliminates that, but lets hope they can make the money they deserve as a "pro".
 

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The only change I can't follow is the open rear number plate. How is that a "significant improvement" as stated? I've already heard enough feedback from spectators that they will have a hard time following who's who in the heat of a race. Benefiting the sponsors is good but come on now...All of the other changes sound fine to me. I was at Red Bud yesterday and won't have a problem staying after a National to be involved in amateur events.
 

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I'll bet a dollar the rider's number will still be on that side number plate, albeit slightly smaller. Probably look euro-style, which doesn't please me cuz I don't want our guys to look yer-a-peein', but anything that helps pay the bills in these trying times works for me.

examples: Molson Kawasaki's Steven Sword



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funkypunk97

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Well I guess that is not horrible if they just shrink the numbers a little..... I like the look of the side numbers, just like NASCAR the number you see most is on the side, not the front.....

The sponsors are and teams just need to police themselves and make sure to keep some tradition on this one. I would hate to see the bikes looking like they are FMX bikes with no numbers and just sponsors plastered on every inch......

As has been stated the fans and announcers need to be able to make a quick call. They cannot rely on the GPS scoring system in real time while they are watching the race.....
 

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We went through a spell of leaving Saturday night and going racing Sunday somewhere else, catch the pros on tv! Then the economics dictated not going at all. District points was more important.
 

wardy

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Hey lets watch and see how the injuries will be on the "sunday" after. If I remember correctly won't saturday watching the pros be an ALL DAY drinking event? only to get up after a night of partying ( when you don't have to drive anywhere) and then 8am hop on the bike and practice.

i can see some serious issues that way, maybe a breath-o-lizer test should be included with the scanning of the sign up card!!!
 

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I was going to bring up the drinking issue but decided to let someone else. So, let's see...yes I can see a bunch of riders pretty much "hung over" come Sundays practice. I don't think that will stop the "drunks". I see them at the races all the time and it does not seem to affect them too much :(
I can't remember a National that there were'nt plenty of people drinking (heavily) and quite a few just plain annoying (idiots). Be it Saturday or Sunday they will party. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 

wardy

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the only difference is that normally they "race" then "drink". This new schedule will reverse that process.

Not an issue unless your on the track with them. Since I will never be, nor will any of my family racing such an event. It's just an opinion i have. I hope they who set this stuff up find a way to make it sure riders don't have more then just the track to deal with during the amatuer races.
 

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Wow! Without side plate numbers it's gonna look like FMX out there. Bike just doesn't look right without numbers. Maybe I'm ol' fashioned. I agee with what's previously said. How does losing side plate numbers support the fan recognition concept that the number 1 plate addressed? What about a mud race? Guess the riders can make up for it with BIGGER numbers on their jerseys.