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Message: [QUOTE="firecracker22, post: 749230, member: 20316"] First, i couldn't afford a truck big enough to tow a trailer--my current ride is a Toyota 4x4 pickup with a 4 cyl. It's not towing ANYTHING. On the way to Reno, with 500 lbs worth of bikes and however much more for gas cans, ramp, riding gear, luggage, skis and snowboards, and 2 people in the cab, I had to hit 3rd gear to climb some of the hills. Pathetic. I could get a full size pickup with a V-8, but as a daily driver, it'd be a lot more expensive to drive, plus I couldn't afford one new enough that I wouldn't be working on it all the time. The van wouldn't be a daily driver. I could either keep the Toyota, or get a little sports car (used) or a Jeep like I used to have for a daily driver, and just park the van except for riding trips. Also, I am young, single and poor so I have to pay for a storage unit--if I had a van, I could leave it in the van overnight instead of worrying about making it to the storage unit in time. Plus it's lockable. Plus I could camp in it. Plus I have never towed/backed up/parked a trailer, and I can imagine it getting ugly based on my parallel parking *skills*. And as far as how "nice" it drives--remember what I am comparing it to. My 75 CJ-5 with the bent frame and zero carpeting, my 77 F150 with oversize tires and wore out tie rods and ball joints, and my Toyota tin can with the bent frame. The van would probably feel like a Cadillac in comparison. Thanks for all the ideas you guys. I've never been inside of a van to look around--is there room to build a small workbench with tool drawers underneath? Cheap, made out of plywood? Maybe up against the dividing wall between front and back? [/QUOTE]

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