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Message: [QUOTE="CaptainObvious, post: 578334, member: 17060"] Well certainly the berm will create the necessary angle for a turn. In fact, when you think about it, when railing a berm you are really just riding a contour. In this case the contour is a curved berm and the result is a turn. As far as tight woods goes, counter steering really has no effect below a fast walking pace because the spinning tire doesn’t create any gyroscopic effect. So if the tight woods keep you at a fast walking pace (5 miles per hour) counter-steering will not be an issue. [/QUOTE]