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Message: [QUOTE="los36, post: 578378, member: 28254"] RV6... Lets talk more about the countersteering. I'm not so sure that it's the gyroscopic effect of the wheel that helps initiate the turn when countersteering. I'd say that the turn-initiating countersteer is used more to initiate the LEAN. If you want to turn LEFT, you need to lean LEFT....so you countersteer RIGHT, moving the bike to the RIGHT and leaving your body hanging over the LEFT side of the bike, thus initiating the lean. It's possible that we're saying the same thing in different ways. Anyway, you guys trying to learn how to turn faster, don't worry about this. Just keep riding! [/QUOTE]