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Message: [QUOTE="huffa, post: 207724, member: 25375"] With an engine size of 450 you don't want a rocket. The motor is extremly smooth, yet in no way do I find it boring like you imply. It's not the exsplosive type of power like my cr250 yet I'm much faster on it. It will chug like a tractor or if your in the mood it will turn some revs. I used to ride 125's years ago, and yes I still think it's more exciting to watch a 125 screaming on the track but the fast way around a track and the least tiring is also usually the most boring to watch. Usually a bike hooks up the best when you hook up at slower revs, this is what is great on the 4 strokes- you can run a gear higher at lower rpm's and go just as fast but to the spectator it's deceiving - it looks like you are going slower- just an illusion. I'm sure you will find the new 250 to your liking, although it's going to be hard to beat that nice 250f motor and suspension for that matter.That's a nice bike. [/QUOTE]