Steve, Ok then, its a plan. Me and Ripnrol will be there wens-friday, so plan on meeting us there on Thursday morn. Where do you usually start, we have been starting at bear (less crowded), but on Thur it shouldnt be to bad, so we'll meet you any where. In fact you can come right to our condo for a cup of coffee in the morn before heading up the hill. We will be staying at Cedarbrook, which is 1/2 mile past the Skyship base station. From there we can drive up to Bear, or where ever! If you can come up Wens, Im sure we have a spot for you to crash. Call me at home, I'll pm you with my cell #, (it actually works up there!) :aj: :aj: