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Message: [QUOTE="_JOE_, post: 1301171, member: 77507"] The mx 4ts are very powerful. The 250 4t is not as strong as a 250 2t. The "hit" isn't as hard on a 4t. The 450s are insane. Most people I know who ride a 450 shouldn't. I would say the 250 4t is like a Mustang while the 450 is like a Viper. You know what I'm trying to say. A 450 is more power than is necessary for most riders. The 250 4ts are easy to ride fast. More forgiving and smoother than the 2t. They have good torque down low and decent top end. They wind up very quickly like a 2t. That TTR you rode has a very heavy flywheel and restrictive engine design which leaves you with a slow revving engine. There is some additional maintenance with a 4t mx bike. [/QUOTE]