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Message: [QUOTE="techman, post: 154489, member: 17388"] The Indeo codec they used was a download version and was 320x240 I think or close to that (ie half res). I think you could still find links to their stuff posted via archives at thumpertalk. By the way, your clips want to download as text for me, and I can't convince the browser to save them so I can find something that will play them, except for one that did come through and play very small, but could not be saved. Do I have to go to the Windows Media dark side? This machine has both QT and Winmedia, and I told the Winmedia setting to save the file, still won't. [/QUOTE]