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Message: [QUOTE="Tony Eeds, post: 473409, member: 32023"] James I understand the underlying theme of your post and agree. But IMHO we need to come up with some compelling way to convince folks that DRN is worth their support. Nothing is free in this world except silence, and silence is what we will have if people continue to perceive that the internet is free. I just went to a site suggested by Papakeith a week or so ago and downloaded the beggarware that PK had discovered. I then sent the guy $5.00 for his trouble. I don't have the slightest clue if $5.00 was enough, too little, too much or [b]WAY[/b] too much, but I sent it. I wonder how many people download his little program without even thinking twice about it. If the guy can't support his little dab of bandwidth, it will likely go away. Nevermind he went to the time to create a neat little program in the first place. All my clients want a copy of a development proforma that I have created. I will gladly give them a copy of the printout with a bill for the effort it took to input the data multiplied by the experience factor of 30 years of learning about what I do. [B]I will not even allow people access to my computer, nor will I give and/or sell a copy of the software until I come up with a satisfactory way to incript it.[/b] That information (formulas etc) is my meal ticket. If they don't respect my experience and are not willing to pay for it, then I have just witnessed the first clue as to why I would be wasting my time with them. Hell, maybe Okiewan should post the financials on the site. The only problem is there is always some mohon willing to debate that anything beyond $1.00 of profit is too much. That would open a whole new can of worms. [/QUOTE]

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