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Message: [QUOTE="jaguar, post: 590795, member: 19340"] measuring race sag: pull up on the fender and measure from axle to a point on the fender above the axle. this is measurement X Sit on the bike with little weight on your feet where they touch the ground and have someone measure from the rear axle to the same fender point. this is meaasurement Y race sag = X - Y generally speaking, most bikes should be close to 1" free sag (no rider) and 4" race sag [/QUOTE]