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Message: [QUOTE="elcamino12sec, post: 1164704, member: 66362"] cool, thanks for all that replied, I used this site's spring rate calculator to see which springs to use and it recomended the stock front and one size stiffer rear. As I am told these bikes roll off assembly for a 160lb average rider. If that is so than why does it recomend only one size larger in only the rear? I would not mind putting money in the suspension to make the bike work for me, however I am only riding for pleasure and not mx. Its just a weekend hobby for me so I dont want or need super expensive suspension work. What would you recomend? [/QUOTE]